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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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Save Borini, Rodgers' additions and decisions with the players we have have been good. Sterling, Shelvy, and Downing have all kicked on. Allen is superb. Sahin looks quality. Our problem is the the players we have relied on in the past are letting us down. Suarez and Gerrard have not been awful, but they have not been what we're used to them being. They have moments of class, but they are making mental mistakes, and they are making a lot of them. Lucas is hurt again. Reina has been awful. I feel for Brendan. He wanted Dempsey. With him or Carroll in the side, I can't help but feel that some of those chances go in.


Do you think Sahin looked quality? Its early days I know but he looked a big fairy to me. There was one incident in the first half when arsenal were breaking on our goal and he just ambled after the aresnal player rather than bursting every muscle. Did not like to see that. And overall I did not notice him playing until he was subsituted. I know I am being unfair but first look today did not impress me or his attitude.


I thought he looked unfit, but his touches and his vision were superb. I'm not worried about him.

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Who's to say we aren't? We might not loose another game. We might not win a game. No one knows but I'm not going to get too worried after just three games and two of the against two of last years top 4.

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Thing that bothers me is we were still playing like a bunch of 'tards at times. BR's methods clearly have not sunk in for a few players. Enrique, Johnson, and especially Gerrard were still whipping crosses into the box like Andy Carroll was up there. But Suarez and Borini are never going to win a header against Vermaelen and Mertesacker!


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Originally Posted By: AvailableOnAFree
Thing that bothers me is we were still playing like a bunch of 'tards at times. BR's methods clearly have not sunk in for a few players. Enrique, Johnson, and especially Gerrard were still whipping crosses into the box like Andy Carroll was up there. But Suarez and Borini are never going to win a header against Vermaelen and Mertesacker!


I think it was always going to take a while for Rodgers methods to gell. We are looking second half of this season with a few comings and goings in the first team selection.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: AvailableOnAFree
Thing that bothers me is we were still playing like a bunch of 'tards at times. BR's methods clearly have not sunk in for a few players. Enrique, Johnson, and especially Gerrard were still whipping crosses into the box like Andy Carroll was up there. But Suarez and Borini are never going to win a header against Vermaelen and Mertesacker!


I think it was always going to take a while for Rodgers methods to gell. We are looking second half of this season with a few comings and goings in the first team selection.
stanley after what you seen today, you still targeting Arsenal's place for fourth then or are you now going to reconsider your view that you did'nt realise the gap between Arsenal the fourth best team in the country and us is bigger than you could ever of imagined.

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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
so vish (before I domi tonight) I would love you to tell me how you would fix things


So before you go to bed tonight I'll tell you what I would like to happen as in the current state of affairs I don't think a fix will be possible.

I would love to see FSG go and look for a wealthy owner and sell the club with may be a small or no profit. Selling for around 300+2 years interest (rates have been quite low) would still be a good deal for a club with such a big fan base (2nd after United among EPL clubs, and this is not going to last forever if we continue on our recent path. They should look in the middle east and may-be China where there are trade surpluses and cash rich companies.

I would like the Chelsea/City/PSG type owners to invest in a 60-75k seats stadium while expecting returns in the long term.This process would surely take 6-12 months. DIC could be a target but I don't know their financial health right now though Dubai is recovering quickly (I was there a couple of months back for business and business was growing again). There is also the rulers of Kuwait who haven't invested in Football yet (UAE and Qatar have) and they have sports franchises. I don't think Saudia would be willing purchasers.

By then (6-12 months) we'll know BR's worth, we'll know if there are any improvements or not. We'll definitely need a knowledgeable CEO like Dein (not necessarily him) with Ian Ayre going back to marketing if he wants, else he leaves. The new 'Knowledgeable' CEO should then take a view on BR and have him replaced by somebody better if it becomes clear that he cannot take us to where we want to be (fight for EPL and Champions league 1st place). With some luck we might be able to attract Pep who would be ending his 1 year sabatical (he has proven to be a winner at a huge club and can handle pressure)

I am probably dreaming as Americans do not let go without fat profits, but, if we continue on the current path, I fear that in a few years time, their 300m won't worth much. If fans stop their support and we do not win trophies + no champion's league, the club will just devaluate and quickly.

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Originally Posted By: ged's red
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: AvailableOnAFree
Thing that bothers me is we were still playing like a bunch of 'tards at times. BR's methods clearly have not sunk in for a few players. Enrique, Johnson, and especially Gerrard were still whipping crosses into the box like Andy Carroll was up there. But Suarez and Borini are never going to win a header against Vermaelen and Mertesacker!


I think it was always going to take a while for Rodgers methods to gell. We are looking second half of this season with a few comings and goings in the first team selection.
stanley after what you seen today, you still targeting Arsenal's place for fourth then or are you now going to reconsider your view that you did'nt realise the gap between Arsenal the fourth best team in the country and us is bigger than you could ever of imagined.


Geds red I have started another thread because of the lack of transfer activity 4th is out now. I did not think aresnal were up to much after the game we were talking to two arsenal fans they did not rate their team either. But we all agreed worst liverpool team in livinbg memory thanks FSG and Dalglish.


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Vish agree wit your post


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excellent post mo kamarade


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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
excellent post mo kamarade


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