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Only 4 months till january  plus we've got Borini, Yesil, Morgan and even Assaidi that can play that position, one of them will come good for goals if your adding morgan then you might as well add ngoo. what a load of cr*p it is And Yesil, who the hell is that The german 'wonder kid' we signed a few days ago
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Don't agree. If you could get a benign owner with the good of the club at heart it might work but otherwise, in the long term, last thing we need is an abramovich type character using this great club as a personal toy to fuel his ego trip.
First thing club needs is a new stadium to maximise season ticket revenue. If either the current owners or replacement owners were to build this, they would, I expect, saddle the club with the associated debt and cripple the club in the short term. Arsenal were starting from a much stronger position when they built Emirates and they have still had to sell year on year to finance their ground.
What we need is some sort of benefactor who would build the stadium for the club. This may sound far fetched but I believe some sort of consortium of non profit seeking fans could arrange for a stadium to be built for a modest outlay from the club. This, of course will not happen while we have investors owning the club. Nobody will gift a stadium to the club simply to make somebody else's asset more valuable. As far as I can see the often criticised fan ownership suggestion is the only model that will ensure that the club can compete at a level needed to keep and grow our fan base. dont think it is a growing fan base though, it cant be because there has been no success for such a long time and as we know to our cost success is the main reason modern day fans attatch themsaelves to football clubs, Chelsea and City are the fastest growing fan bases in the world now for obvious reasons. That was my point really, FSG's supposed long term strategy to grow LIverpool slowly is flawed purely because no club's fan base can grow without success. We can't get by on our history alone. The only rationale that I can see for their strategy is to stabilise the club in the short term and make it more attractive to investors. They sell and make a quick profit. Problem with this is that we have no say over who might buy the club. A new stadium or a substantially revamped Anfield is the only way forward. It doesn't look like there is any chance of that happening on these guy's watch.
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because we didnt buy clint dempsey.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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Personally I couldn't care less about Clint Dempsey. His arrival or non- arrival has not changed my point of view one iota. In that regard perhaps my original post was off topic.
I am open minded about FSG's original motives as they did allow Kenny to invest the Torres money as well as some of the difference between what they paid for the club and what it was worth at the time they bought it. SInce last Christmas however I have seen very little encouraging signs from their actions. Most disappointing for me was their choice of manager. It stank of lack of ambition for me.
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Don't agree. If you could get a benign owner with the good of the club at heart it might work but otherwise, in the long term, last thing we need is an abramovich type character using this great club as a personal toy to fuel his ego trip.
First thing club needs is a new stadium to maximise season ticket revenue. If either the current owners or replacement owners were to build this, they would, I expect, saddle the club with the associated debt and cripple the club in the short term. Arsenal were starting from a much stronger position when they built Emirates and they have still had to sell year on year to finance their ground.
What we need is some sort of benefactor who would build the stadium for the club. This may sound far fetched but I believe some sort of consortium of non profit seeking fans could arrange for a stadium to be built for a modest outlay from the club. This, of course will not happen while we have investors owning the club. Nobody will gift a stadium to the club simply to make somebody else's asset more valuable. As far as I can see the often criticised fan ownership suggestion is the only model that will ensure that the club can compete at a level needed to keep and grow our fan base. dont think it is a growing fan base though, it cant be because there has been no success for such a long time and as we know to our cost success is the main reason modern day fans attatch themsaelves to football clubs, Chelsea and City are the fastest growing fan bases in the world now for obvious reasons. That was my point really, FSG's supposed long term strategy to grow LIverpool slowly is flawed purely because no club's fan base can grow without success. We can't get by on our history alone. The only rationale that I can see for their strategy is to stabilise the club in the short term and make it more attractive to investors. They sell and make a quick profit. Problem with this is that we have no say over who might buy the club. A new stadium or a substantially revamped Anfield is the only way forward. It doesn't look like there is any chance of that happening on these guy's watch. you wont fill a stadium if you dont have some sort of success, we dont and thats why I think we should stay as we are myself, dont want to be saddled with debt for a new stadium or revamp as we dont have enough monney for players as it is, it would be 100 times worse.
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I'm on exactly the same page as you there, we can't afford to build the stadium. The only chance we have of competing in the long term is if somebody builds one for us!
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BR is a gamble no doubt. and ive made my views clear on him that i wont be giving him any special dispensation. if you believe you can do the job you will be expected to do the job required.
lets wait and se. we have new players and youth coming through. they will be expected to all be scoring goals. on player to get all the goals may not be the answer and i dont think one purchase will be the difference between success and disaster. i didnt want dempsey, i wasnt keen on sturridge. there was no one player during the window that i would have said "he will be the difference".
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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I think I will support tranmere from now on more prospects
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Goals are going to be a problem, let's not kid ourselves about that. I understand your reservations about Dempsey and Sturridge but some people will argue they would be better then nobody. As you say we wil have to wait and see how BR does with the players he has. Hopefully things will look better at 3.30 tomorrow.
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i mentioned yesterday that this chaos over transfer day means rodgers will be in the clear if things dont work out this season. which is not right.
i can understand a little disappointment about yesterday, most clubs fans dont get what they want in the window. but i dont think it is anywhere as disasterous as is being made out.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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