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the bare fact is that we have owners who cant afford it (again)and if we are ever to come out of the shadow of the rich clubs we will have to have a multi billionaire owner.thats the way football is now,sad but true.
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Only 4 months till january  plus we've got Borini, Yesil, Morgan and even Assaidi that can play that position, one of them will come good for goals If you believe one of these will score at least 15-20 then suit yourself. I won't believe that, I'm not that deluded. I think Suarez can easily get 15-20 this season, he got 11 last year and that was with his ban. I think the other four will be good for on average about 5 each depending on playing time. So that'd give us between 35-40 goals. If we go with a coservative estimate and say 35, I think we can expect another 10-15 from out wingers and midfield, with maybe another 10 coming from defenders. That puts us to 55 at minimum, which isnt great but is an improvement on last year, but possibly 65 which as long as we tighten up at the back, should be enough goals. As much as I would love to think Suarez can score 20 or more goals I just don't believe it one bit, he misses far too many opportunities, he may end up scoring 20+ in all competitions yes but in the league I don't think so. If you look at spurs last season, they scored 66 goals to clinch 4th while we scored only 47. We needed a striker big time to improve on that. We may improve but as you mentioned 50 or so goals is what we should be expecting. Not enough.
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It's tough to tally our coming seasons goals like that though, fact is we needed a goalscorer desperately, we needed a 25+ striker, not that it was Dempsey, but it's looking like FSG have put a small budget out this window, despite getting a lot of players off the wage bill.
As much as it'll please him to watch this unfold, Ged might be right about the slide. 20m won't be enough to get us anywhere near the top teams, especially if we dont make the CL and our top players start jumping ship, no chance of Surin staying either.
I've not given up on 4th yet. We did improve the sqaud this summer, unlike Newcastle and Arsenal, arguably. Spurs got some very decent signings in, but lost 2 of thier best players. IF AVB gets them playing together, they could walk 4th. Again, this was our chance to get back into the top 4 by signing at least one decent striker.
The biggest annoyance was loaning Carrol out. I wasn't against him going, but I'm sure someone said the owners would give him funds now, so figured BR could get his own replacement in. The owners must have known there was a good chance no-one was coming in, so why the loan? Saving on wages??
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I think Suarez can easily get 15-20 this season, he got 11 last year and that was with his ban. I think the other four will be good for on average about 5 each depending on playing time. So that'd give us between 35-40 goals. If we go with a coservative estimate and say 35, I think we can expect another 10-15 from out wingers and midfield, with maybe another 10 coming from defenders.
That puts us to 55 at minimum, which isnt great but is an improvement on last year, but possibly 65 which as long as we tighten up at the back, should be enough goals. that is very very optimistic more realistic numbers: Suarez: 10-15 Gerard: 5-10 Assadi,Morgan,Borini,Stirling(yes that is the rest of whole forward line):10-15 CM+defense:5-8 goals: 30-48 total games this season:45-60 you can panic now 
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the bare fact is that we have owners who cant afford it (again)and if we are ever to come out of the shadow of the rich clubs we will have to have a multi billionaire owner.thats the way football is now,sad but true. Nail on the head. FSG are simply a solvent G&H no more than that.
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Not a fan of this thread, has the season ended? +1 its good that we did not get involved in the last day frenzy like we did in the past. BR has clearly said that it will take 3 windows to get what he wants. If the players we want are not available then we do not buy. To me this looks more like he wants to stay 3 years in the job, no matter what. I think in January we will look again. No reason to panic just yet We'll panic definitely in about 2 months according to me. I have no hope whatsoever or maybe just hope City retains their title.
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Only 4 months till january plus we've got Borini, Yesil, Morgan and even Assaidi that can play that position, one of them will come good for goals if your adding morgan then you might as well add ngoo. what a load of cr*p it is
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Only 4 months till january plus we've got Borini, Yesil, Morgan and even Assaidi that can play that position, one of them will come good for goals if your adding morgan then you might as well add ngoo. what a load of cr*p it is And Yesil, who the hell is that
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Don't agree. If you could get a benign owner with the good of the club at heart it might work but otherwise, in the long term, last thing we need is an abramovich type character using this great club as a personal toy to fuel his ego trip.
First thing club needs is a new stadium to maximise season ticket revenue. If either the current owners or replacement owners were to build this, they would, I expect, saddle the club with the associated debt and cripple the club in the short term. Arsenal were starting from a much stronger position when they built Emirates and they have still had to sell year on year to finance their ground.
What we need is some sort of benefactor who would build the stadium for the club. This may sound far fetched but I believe some sort of consortium of non profit seeking fans could arrange for a stadium to be built for a modest outlay from the club. This, of course will not happen while we have investors owning the club. Nobody will gift a stadium to the club simply to make somebody else's asset more valuable. As far as I can see the often criticised fan ownership suggestion is the only model that will ensure that the club can compete at a level needed to keep and grow our fan base.
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Don't agree. If you could get a benign owner with the good of the club at heart it might work but otherwise, in the long term, last thing we need is an abramovich type character using this great club as a personal toy to fuel his ego trip.
First thing club needs is a new stadium to maximise season ticket revenue. If either the current owners or replacement owners were to build this, they would, I expect, saddle the club with the associated debt and cripple the club in the short term. Arsenal were starting from a much stronger position when they built Emirates and they have still had to sell year on year to finance their ground.
What we need is some sort of benefactor who would build the stadium for the club. This may sound far fetched but I believe some sort of consortium of non profit seeking fans could arrange for a stadium to be built for a modest outlay from the club. This, of course will not happen while we have investors owning the club. Nobody will gift a stadium to the club simply to make somebody else's asset more valuable. As far as I can see the often criticised fan ownership suggestion is the only model that will ensure that the club can compete at a level needed to keep and grow our fan base. dont think it is a growing fan base though, it cant be because there has been no success for such a long time and as we know to our cost success is the main reason modern day fans attatch themsaelves to football clubs, Chelsea and City are the fastest growing fan bases in the world now for obvious reasons.
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