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I agree competition is harder now Man city,Spurs and newcastle all overtaking us.But just worried we are trying to stabilise in this 6-8th position instead of busting a gut to get back into fourth onwards.My opinion is Benitez has more nous about challenging at the top,but Rodgers may surprise me. when Benitez was in charge the job was easier, there was a big three and not a big four due to City emerging, we also had more money to buy players, Benitez took us to seventh in his last season so the wheels of his reign had well and truly fell off.
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In Rafa's first season (of 6) in charge, we finished 5th - ie: outside the top 4. Dunno where your "big three" is coming from.
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In Rafa's first season (of 6) in charge, we finished 5th - ie: outside the top 4. Dunno where your "big three" is coming from. the big three in this country have been United, Arsenal and Chelsea in recent years Manchester City and there wealth have made it a top four. hope this clears things up for you. When Benitez was in charge there was always a champions League place up for grabbs in the top four and as we were the fourth best team in the country we regulary qualified, this changed tho when City came on the scene and also when Spurs became the fifth best team in the country, we have slipped down ever since.
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Top 3? I've never heard of this before. It has always been called the top 4 as long as I remember.
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In Rafa's first season (of 6) in charge, we finished 5th - ie: outside the top 4. Dunno where your "big three" is coming from. the big three in this country have been United, Arsenal and Chelsea in recent years Manchester City and there wealth have made it a top four. hope this clears things up for you. When Benitez was in charge there was always a champions League place up for grabbs in the top four and as we were the fourth best team in the country we regulary qualified, this changed tho when City came on the scene and also when Spurs became the fifth best team in the country, we have slipped down ever since. We were always 4th best? We finished 5th, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 2nd and then finally 7th under Rafa. Certainly weren't always 4th best, nor were we behind a "big three". Not sure where you've dreamt up that fantasy. The league has changed a lot though in the last 2 or 3 seasons with City and Spurs emerging though and Liverpool going into meltdown towards the end of Rafa/H&G's reign.
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In Rafa's first season (of 6) in charge, we finished 5th - ie: outside the top 4. Dunno where your "big three" is coming from. the big three in this country have been United, Arsenal and Chelsea in recent years Manchester City and there wealth have made it a top four. hope this clears things up for you. When Benitez was in charge there was always a champions League place up for grabbs in the top four and as we were the fourth best team in the country we regulary qualified, this changed tho when City came on the scene and also when Spurs became the fifth best team in the country, we have slipped down ever since. We were always 4th best? We finished 5th, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 2nd and then finally 7th under Rafa. Certainly weren't always 4th best, nor were we behind a "big three". Not sure where you've dreamt up that fantasy. The league has changed a lot though in the last 2 or 3 seasons with City and Spurs emerging though and Liverpool going into meltdown towards the end of Rafa/H&G's reign. I would say Liverpool were always the fourth best team in the country behind United, Arsenal and Chelsea until we were overtaken by City and Spurs. I agree about the meltdown under Benitez though, we were decent in Europe under him but always dreadful in the League apart from one season.
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I don't know how you can say we were always 4th best under Rafa when we finished higher than that in 3 of his 6 years. In 2008-09 we were arguably the best team in the league. Ultimately the league table placed us 2nd best. We certainly weren't 4th best, that's for sure.
Rafa had the Midas touch in Europe. It's hard to believe thinking back - when we played in the CL, I had the feeling that we were literally unbeatable. We had wins in the Nou Camp, The San Siro and the Bernabeu to name a few. Just goes to show, we didn't realise at the time how good we had it. People were getting on Rafa's back because he still hadn't delivered the league title, when they should have been busy appreciating what he had been building.
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Rafa Rafa Rafa Rafa... SHUT UP! Im sick of hearing our fans waffle on about Rafa, he was a great manager for us 2005 will never be forgot or replicated and the year we finished second wont be forgot either but come on he's gone the past is the past nobody's offered him anything in 2 years that says enough for me he's gone and he's not coming back keep living in the past and we'll never see a future. In Rodgers i trust.
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Don't think top 4 means 4th best, to me it means any one of 1,2,3,4 which we were more than less before City's new owners and investments
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Rafa Rafa Rafa Rafa... SHUT UP!
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