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Agree completely. It takes a lot of resources to get the players that you want in your system as Jose M and Roberto M showed with unlimited resources they had. We unfortunately do not have that, so first you adapt and then change in steps, else, you will try yo fit a square peg in a round hole. Consequences can be very damaging. I hope BR is intelligent enough to see that or else he can work out miracles which would be even better

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I think it was Carragher that said last night, 'there is no reason why it should take a long time for players to adapt to a new system'.
If what we saw last night was this 'tiki-taka' formula then god help us. Hearts looked much better than us and I wouldn't have batted an eyelid if they'd beaten us by a couple of goals. We were pretty poor. Not looking forward to the the city game at all.

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/liv...pool_41626.html

Apparently we had 58% of possession - i know we were away but we were up against a crappy scottish team. Not good enough. Mind you, the above article says we had 58% and Hearts had 43%!!!!! Puzzling stuff.

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That was with a second choice midfield. It might be different on Sunday

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We were missing Skrtel, Johnson and Enrique last night. Is this forum full of 13 year olds or what? Carra does on bad back pass - Big deal he wont start many games this year and when he does im sure it wont happen again. Adam Henderson and Spearing started last night, thats our second midfield against probably the second best SPL team there is right now, Sterling Shelvey and Borini? Come on lads Borini is the only proper first team player there. Agger, Reina and Borini are the only first team players who started last night and with the window still open we've plenty of time. And now with Sahin on the way our midfield will have that bit more creativity.

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We still had £100m worth of 'talent' in the squad, plus experienced players that came through the ranks. Second string or not, we shouldn't have been made to look so average by a team like heart of midlothian.

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Forget the price tags. Adam and Spearing are Championship quality, or relegation battling prem players at the most. Carra is past it, robinson and kelly are both still young, henderson and downing are henderson and downing, borini might still need some time. We had a mid tabled line up against one of Scotlands best, relax lads 2 weeks ago ye were all the same people spouting "give it a few months". were just about 2 weeks in now and some of you just sound stupid.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
I think it was Carragher that said last night, 'there is no reason why it should take a long time for players to adapt to a new system'.
If what we saw last night was this 'tiki-taka' formula then god help us. Hearts looked much better than us and I wouldn't have batted an eyelid if they'd beaten us by a couple of goals. We were pretty poor. Not looking forward to the the city game at all.

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/liv...pool_41626.html

Apparently we had 58% of possession - i know we were away but we were up against a crappy scottish team. Not good enough. Mind you, the above article says we had 58% and Hearts had 43%!!!!! Puzzling stuff.


We won though. We spent most of last season "looking better than" the teams we were playing, but we still lost most of those games. I know which outcome I'd prefer between the two. There's no doubt we have a lot of improving to do, but there'll be no panicking coming from me just yet anyway, especially if we keep getting wins. In the last 5 games (including friendlies) we've won 4 (Gomel, Bayer Leverkusen, Gomel, Hearts) and lost 1. Unfortunately, the one we lost was arguably the most important one. We have 37 more games to make up for that one though. Patience.


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Originally Posted By: D500
That was with a second choice midfield. It might be different on Sunday


Will definitely not be second class team as Hearts. More worried of our defensive play

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I have no arguments about being patient Bar. Not expecting even a top 4 finish this season.

However, this team is not as bad as is being made out. We had an awful season last year and we finished 8th. Surely, given the same set of players and a new coach who is supposed to far better than the previous one, the least we should expect is some better performances, results and comfortably challenging for 5th/6th.

Of course we'll all have to wait and see what happens, but I don't think it was necessary to have the amount of uncertainty that we have at the moment. Yes we won yesterday, but it seems we didn't control the game, which means the win may be down to luck and hence is not a confidence builder for future results. Added to the West Brom result... well ...

In a strange way, the perfromance on Sunday may now matter more than the result itself.


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