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That's right.

How many times have we seen our defence under pressure when we play kick-abouts around our backline? We lost the ball when skittle got dispossessed in our own box at WBA. We nearly gifted the ball to another hearts forward when carra played a poor backpass to reina. At the rate we're going, we'll probably going to concede a couple of goals every game. Good teams in the league are not going to be so forgiving.

I think AVB tried to implement this high-line strategy with chavs last season but with much failure. And I think we managed to score against them at the bridge when adam robbed them of the ball near their box. It's disastrous and unless we have world class midfielders who knows how to create space for themselves like xavi or iniesta, we'll going to be screwed.

I can foresee teams putting a lot of pressure on our backline from now. Once we're under pressure, we don't know what to do and almost always lose possession in the middle of the park, or worse, near our goal. BR had better sort this out otherwise we're just going to be an accident waiting to be happen.

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Have to agree with the point....however I think the principle is sound. We just need to get good at it...

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But, it was their first game. I can see them understanding what they can and can't get away with after a few competitive games. If not Rodgers seems like he's smart enough to change something, unlike AVB.

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Unless BR gets pragmatic it's something we're going to have to live with.

I'm not a fan of his short term approach. I think when he first came in he should've stayed quiet a bit, watched the players in training, understood how much change in personnel he could actually make and then adopted a style for this season which suits the resources at his disposal.

His preferred style should've have been brought in gradually after coaching the players over an extended period of time and exchanging players not suited during a few transfer windows. Now with Agger injured, everytime Carra gets the ball he'll try and play tik taka with Reina and we'll all sit there shaking and sweating... and Reina might end up doing a Valdes crazy


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Our defence is the only part of our team thats sound. We hae quality and a strong bacl line yes mistakes have been made in the first game of thr season but that will settle down. Its the other end of the field our problems lie


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Our defence is the only part of our team thats sound. We hae quality and a strong bacl line yes mistakes have been made in the first game of thr season but that will settle down. Its the other end of the field our problems lie


Stan, precisely the point. Our defence used to be so compact and solid. Now it's absolutely porous and we're prone to counter-attacks or self destruction via goal mouth tiki taka. When teams like hearts can run at us and put in shots at pepe reina, there's something wrong with the system. We seem to be fixing something that's not broken and that's the major concern.

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I see your point but I am sure the coaches are working on it. We have the players and goalkeeper and they have been around a while so confident thgat problem will be sorted.


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Our defence is the only part of our team thats sound. We hae quality and a strong bacl line yes mistakes have been made in the first game of thr season but that will settle down. Its the other end of the field our problems lie


Stan, precisely the point. Our defence used to be so compact and solid. Now it's absolutely porous and we're prone to counter-attacks or self destruction via goal mouth tiki taka. When teams like hearts can run at us and put in shots at pepe reina, there's something wrong with the system. We seem to be fixing something that's not broken and that's the major concern.


Two things I have noticed.Reina constantly moaning at the defence about things their doing wrong,I remember Reina being mostly a spectator and opposition being limited to long range efforts.Not sure if its the loss of Mascherano that started this.Secondly the amount of times Agger is looking for a pass then going back and gesturing for more movement is worrying.

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On Agger, I'm sure it will just take time for players to adapt to the new system. They're currently not comfortable with it yet and don't instinctively move into the right positions but with time that will change.

I'm glad that Reina is trying to marshal the defence and its a sign that he is eager to improve it. He has the best view of whats happening in front of him so Rodgers needs to work closely with him to get any points from Reina he can about where the defenders are going wrong and iron them out. Easier said than done but time and understanding are what is needed to get used to a completely new way of thinking and playing

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I am actually expecting to be 4 played 4 defeats in the league. This call of 'we do well against the better teams' line may have had some relevance before, but the whole play book was binned.

However, if you change an entire method of play and retain most of the same players who aren't used to it, how long do you think it will take 5 minutes?

I think we will spend most of the first half of the season in the bottom half and start to see things come right in the latter part of the year. It is quite clear he has a tight budget and is wheeling and dealing a little like Harry to up the overall quality.

One can argue all day long about the rights and wrongs of FSG, this and that, but that is the reality of it and realism is necessary along with a good dose of patience.

Get used to it gents it will probably be a long long season.


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