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What is this Tiki Taka crap anyway? How many teams have tried to play like Barcelona for years now and have not been able to do so? Don't tell me Swansea played like Barcelona. Does anybody think that when Jose M went to Real Madrid he talked about playing Tiki Taka to win the Spanish league? I think BR.became popular only after he signed for us and our owners who according to me are soccer stupid, were impressed with his 180 pages thesis. The best thing BR has done so far is finish 11th in the league. Anything better would be improving his best performance which I really hope will happen but very skeptical I must admit, unfortunately. We'll know more next Sunday

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the thing is i always harp back to the rafa era and the 2009 season and we couldent win the league then but we are a lifetime away from that level, are we no longer a great club and honestly do our owners give a sh1t cos all they do is spoon feed us fans with fancy words and bullsh1t.

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Just prior to WBA's goal, Suarez missed a great chance. If that had gone in it probably would have turned very differently. I thought LFC pressed the ball well and the passing looked crisp for most of the first half. Rodgers has some tough games ahead and I hope he gets through them. If he can get the club playing proper football (and what we saw under KD in the second half of last season was not good) it would be a tremendous achievement. Very few of the present squad performed in the second half of last year, and there's only so much you can do given that we're not spending from a bottomless pit.

Personally, I'd ask for the same again from the players but I'd drop Borini, push Suarez out left and put Carroll in the middle. Given that we're playing a high presssing game, pace could be less important than mindset in front of goal. I have more confidence in Carroll as a goal scorer. Saying that, I can also see BR moving Borini to centre to see how that works

I really cannot understand why, after only one game, we are talking about removing manager again. I saw nothing under Roy Evans, GH, Rafa, Hodgson, or Dalglish that ever looked much more promising. Unless we do get relegated, I'm hoping we'll stick with Rodgers fo some time. He's young, ambitious and has ideas.

Rafa's tactics worked sometimes but even with Torres as a striker, we often struggled to win games and when we did, it wasn't through the domination of possession. Holding the ball has to be central to success and that's what he appears to be building around. I believe in his strategy. Whether he's strong enough to impose success is, of course, still to be seen but we have to give him a chance.

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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
Winning trophies
So does that philosophy apply to Huddersfield in the 1930's, maybe Spurs and there glory, glory days of the early 60's, maybe Leeds United early 70's or Everton early 80's, nobody says those Clubs philosophy anymore is to win trophies so how does it apply to us when we have won just one trophy in about 7 years.

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The lack of quality we have is the issue. the likes of lucas spearing hendo downing etc wouldnt get in the top four first teams. we also play too many death passes

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If a club like LFC is not about winning trophies, what is it about then? Surviving in the middle of the league every year according to you or just qualify for champions league like Arsenal? Just ask Arsenal fans how they feel about this

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I thought now it exists to make money for american speculators? correct me if I am wrong


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You are probably right and on the back of us fans...

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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
If a club like LFC is not about winning trophies, what is it about then? Surviving in the middle of the league every year according to you or just qualify for champions league like Arsenal? Just ask Arsenal fans how they feel about this
Our old, old targets was winning Leagues and European Cups, our old targets was getting into the Champions League now our new target is trying to finish in the top six and qualify for the Europa League with hopefuly picking up an odd F.A.Cup or League Cup along the way, thats a fans target and point of view on the back of this the most important thing is to make money for our owners this is where we now are as a Football Club, hope this clears things up for you.

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This is what I said, winning trophies. FA Cup, League Cup are trophies.

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