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Originally Posted By: murphs75
What a pathetic title for a thread.

Havent watched the video and never will. Very irresponsible for the owner of this website to posting such garbage.

We have a bright young new manager bringing exciting young talent. The club spent £100 million on new players last year.

Sorry but this is a complete joke.


One of the biggest questions I am EVER asked is do I trust FSG? Can we trust FSG? I go out of my way to try and answer that question and you assume it's anti-FSG immediately DESPITE the fact that in the video it says that they will do good for Liverpool. That my friend is an absolute joke.

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Originally Posted By: thundyr
Sorry, Dunc, but when the owner of a website openly indicates his disposition towards the owners of a club he supports, he needs some heavy duty proof or he needs to keep his mouth shut.


You clearly haven't been following my stance on FSG recently. You have no idea what I'm going to say about FSG.

As for 'keep watching' that's aimed at my YouTube subscribers. I'm hardly going to record a series of videos late at night after just returning home. Lighten up and don't let the music scare you.

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Originally Posted By: thundyr
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Right at the end of the video is a google-ad for "lose 4 stone in 3 months"....

I'm not sure why people are having a go at Dunc - at no point in this thread has he expressed an opinion as to whether he thinks we should or shouldn't trust FSG. He 'might' have reservations but to me, this topic looks like nothing more than a discussion point. What's the problem with that?


Of course he's permitted to have his own opinion - no one is denying him that. But if all he is doing is "speculating" then he is no better than the media rabble we love to hate, making up sensational headlines that incite trouble where none is to be found. I would be extremely disappointed if this kind of tabloid reporting is the way Dunc plans to continue.


Paranoia. You have no idea what I'm going to say. You assume, because you're up FSG's behind, that it's an attack on them.

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My video was put out to spark a debate... it's working... that's what I wanted, that's my intention. When I'm ready I'll talk about FSG. Thanks.

PS: We've started clearing out people who post offensive and stupid replies or can't engage in mature debate. 3 went last night, 3 have gone today. More will follow. It is my priority to ensure that the whole community isn't subjected to idiots.

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Originally Posted By: aldo
Dunc Why are you getting rid of good posters? You have gotten rid of 2 good users Thundyr and Rafaderum who spoke good sense? Just because they didnt agree with your argumet


Firstly, don't assume that I make all the decisions on here.

Secondly, nobody is ever removed for having a different opinion to me.

Thirdly, a warning was issued yesterday stating that we will be culling people regardless of how long they've been here if they're not posing sensibly. If we see any abusive posts, baiting posts or posts like "that's sh*t!", people will be removed. If people can't engage in mature and sensible discussion and respect their fellow members they will be binned.

People have got away with it for too long and it's not happening any more. Any nonsense or poor contributions will see ensure people leave.

I would advise people read yesterday's warning:

http://www.koptalk.co.uk/forums/ubbthrea...;gonew=1#UNREAD

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Hold on now minute everyone. The video Dunk posted was "Can Liverpool fans trust FSG". He did not say "Do not trust them" or anything along the lines of it. The video is simply bringing the topic to the front and i dont think he's against FSG, I honestly dont. And to those of u slating FSG for the Kenny saga, the players we bought etc. GET A GRIP. When Kenny was here at first EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU WANTED HIM. As did i. And the signings? Downing, Adam, Henderson and Carrol were 4 players who before we bought them were showing serious class. Downing is only starting to grow in confidence this summer and as for Adam, well he's useless. But remember Carrol from January to May last season? Magnificent form, regardless of the price tag. The new season starts in 48 hours and you lot are talking like were about to be in the mix for relegation. I think this threat started with a great point but as always it spirals out of control. If your not going to support your team and talk sense well then why bother talking atal? I understand people are opposed to whats been said in this thread, but talk some sense and stop spouting some of the utter nonsense iv seen. YNWA to all of you.

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Originally Posted By: IanHorgo
Hold on now minute everyone. The video Dunk posted was "Can Liverpool fans trust FSG". He did not say "Do not trust them" or anything along the lines of it. The video is simply bringing the topic to the front and i dont think he's against FSG, I honestly dont.


We have a winner. How nice for people not to jump to paranoid conclusions.

I guess they missed the bit where one guy said FSG would make Liverpool better... and since when has been ruthless ever been bad in business? There's nothing anti-FSG about the video at all.

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Well done Dunk its your site if you aint happy with some of the utter brown being said then do what you gotta do its not our decision.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
When Hicks & Gillet were in charge we signed players like:

Torres
Mascherano
Arbeloa
Lucas
Skrtel
Johnson

We also had a champions league final and finished 3rd, 4th, 2nd and 7th in the league. But no signs of a new stadium.

Under FSG we have finished 7th and 8th in the league, and won a carling cup. Significant signings include:

Carroll
Downing
Henderson
Adam

And still no sign of a stadium. Is the grass REALLY greener?


In fairness, Masch was signed from West Ham's reserves, Johnson was signed from Portsmouth (albeit a coup at the time all the same), Lucas and Skrtel were unheard of, and Arbeloa was largely unheard of at Deportivo. Torres is the only one who was over £20m (I think Masch was about £18m eventually). Carroll, Downing, Henderson and Adam all had good seasons for their clubs (I know you'll argue with me on Hendo there grin ) and went for big money.

The fact that the signings under H&G worked out better than the FSG signings (the ones you so conveniently handpicked, that is) is nothing to do with the owners, but more to do with the managers who signed them. H&G's signings were all made by Rafa and FSG's by Kenny. I'd give the credit there rather than use it as a stick to beat FSG with.


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Originally Posted By: IanHorgo
Well done Dunk its your site if you aint happy with some of the utter brown being said then do what you gotta do its not our decision.


Thanks.

Nobody will ever be removed from this site for having a different opinion to me. I encourage debate, that's my job. I always stand up for people with minority views who are often bullied for having their view. Providing people express themselves sensibly and don't offend others, they're safe.

But for months there has been a group of people reporting each other like some kind of game and it's becoming tiring. It is now my priority to stop all that and unfortunately there will be some casualties. Numerous warnings have been ignored and people think they can do what they want here - they can't.

My priority is to make sure that the majority of people are happy. Those who aren't or those who don't like the way we run our forums, are free to leave at any time.

YNWA

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