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Citeh will win the League at a canter this year.

Scholes and Giggsy are possibly in the last season for the club.

I would exoect united to focus on the Champions League this year after last years dismal performances.

They are at the end of their cycle. That is evident by Fergie's transfer dealings.

United might even struggle to get second place. They have a tremendous amount of luck last season. We had terrible luck.

Perhaps is about time the tables were reversed and united had some big trouble ahead.

Wenger will possibly leave Arsenal at the end of this season, So we have to capitalise on our rivals being weakend.

Do you know what would be quite funny. If after all this he fails his medical.

utd might have lost out on one goal ( thank god they did) but what you dont acknowledge is the fact that city played without their best player for most of the season, tevez. in all round play tevez brings alot more to the table.

wouldnt you rather have him break down the day after passing his medical and miss out the whole season. i know which one i rather have

I think it's a surprising gamble by Fergie. Is he losing the plot? Arsenal thrive on selling their best players 12 months before they lose their ability, and Fergie went for it hook, line, and sinker. 24m pounds for a 30 year old with one year on his contract? Arsenal is the big winner here.

Look, maybe RVP does really well for United, and maybe he helps them win another title (not something we at Liverpool will enjoy much, I assure you), but never forget that Wenger knows exactly when to sell. Henry, Adebayor, Galas, Kolo Toure - they've all been magnificent since they left the Gunners, yeah? No, they haven't. I'm not convinced that his loss will affect Arsenal all that much anyway - they will finish 3rd or 4th this season as always, and it's another year closer to paying off their stadium without losing impetus.

As a Liverpool supporter I would have preferred he stayed, but d@mn that's good business by Wenger. RVP might even be complete sh!te at Stretford, and wouldn't that be wonderful?

I acknowledged that earlier, and it is a good point. But when you conisder that Utd were so short that they had to bring Scholes out of retirement, plus their best defenders were on/off long term casualties it evens things out. When you throw into the mix van Persie and Kagawa then surely you must see that it's going to be very close. City's only purchase so far has been rodwell and he won't even get in the team! And there's always a big risk that Tevez will have a fit and decide that he IS homesick (again) after all - there'll be some disruptive drama I'm sure.

United seem to throw away silly money each year no wonder they are in trouble financially. RVP had a fabulous scoring record last season before that I can't really remember him being anything special.

He will fit right in over there. I hope he doesn't turn out to be another Berbatov. Or no I don't.

My sentiments precisely. Have an onion..

van Persie.

Year - Minutes played - Goals - Assists

2011/12 - 3331 - 30 - 12
2010/11 - 1770 - 18 - 7
2009/10 - 1252 - 9 - 7
2008/09 - 2199 - 11 - 10
2007/08 - 1073 - 7 - 3
2006/07 - 1456 - 11 - 7



It clearly shows, since van Persie arrived at Arsenal, that last season was by far and away his best season, it was also that last season where he played by far and away the most amount of minutes since being at Arsenal. Playing in nearly every game in an injury free season. Manchester United have paid £24MILLION for a 29 year old in the final year of his contract, for a player who has had good 1 season, maybe 2 if you push it, in 6 seasons of Premier League football. The player is also known to be injury prone, last season he was injury free, but as you get older the likelihood of injury's become even more likely.

IF van Persie replicates his last season for Arsenal in a Man United shirt, then he may go some way to justify the price tag. However he didn't look brilliant in the Euro's either. Plus his output will come at the cost of another player, Wayne Rooney, either/or will be the case here, both won't do it at the same time. Rooney was second fiddle to Ronaldo, until Ronaldo went. When that happened, Rooney scored the goals. van Persie doesn't play with a partner, he plays up front in a front 3.

But if van Persie fails to replicate last season, which the stats say is highly likely, and has just another average season, Arsenal won't just be rubbing their hands (like they are now) they'll be laughing!

£24MILLION for an injury prone grey haired 29 year old in his final year!?!

The disgusting thing is, like Torres to Chelsea, van Persie f*cked of to a main rival, and for that, deserves to get the stick he is gonna get. Going to Man City is one thing, with the likes of Adebayor, Nasri, Kolo Toure and Clichy, going to Man United is the ULTIMATE insult.

If van persie went to City (which he could have done) he'd have been called a money grabber. I don't see why going to Utd is the ultimate insult? Spurs are Arsenal's biggest rivals, THAT would have been worse - look at the stick sol campbell received. What if RVP was a lifelong Utd fan? He shouldn't have to turn them down just because some fans don't approve.

One thing we both agree on though is that it's a huge gamble.

I don't blame Arsene for any of this, not even the contract situation. RVP may well have wanted a new improved contract 2 years ago, which would have taken him up to 32/33 years old. With his injury record maybe Arsene didn't feel like it was worth a gamble giving a payrise/longer contract to someone that would probably only play 15 games a year and who would have a declining resell value. No one could have predicted that RVP would do as well as he did last year AND stay injury free - it was completely out of the blue. I don't think Utd will see a repeat of his goals or his fitness.

I think Arsenal/Wenger have done a job on Utd with this deal and will walk away laughing.