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Depends on how you construe "best". Gerrard has scored 20+ goals in only 3 seasons (all competitions) during his career: 23 in 05-06 (kinda all over the place positionally while Benitez worked out where best to play him, but we won the CL), 21 in 07-08 (on the right), and 24 in 08-09 (in the hole, and despite playing a handful of games fewer than in either of the other seasons). Given that 08-09 was our best season in terms of the league (where 16 of his goals came) and in terms of total goals scored, I'd have to say he's more effective in the middle in general (and especially since the crucial goals he has scored have all come from front and centre).

Benitez's 4-2-3-1 is also not the same as Rodgers' 4-3-3, though each is able to move to the other in terms of "formation", certainly. But Rodgers wants something a little different on the right, I believe, which is why we have the choice of Downing or Suarez there depending on which way we wish to play. Gerrard only needs to drift to the right to overlap and utilize aerial ball if Carroll plays, whereas in the middle he will get possession more often and although he's lost some of his pace and ability is still right up there when it comes to winning (and scoring) free-kicks. AMC for me every time, especially if Carroll plays because then he can become the 4th forward (outside on the right) while largely retaining his presence in the middle. Maybe I didn't explain that well, though. Oh well, it's dinner time an I must be off.

I get what you're saying and it's very valid. But (possibly) signing Tello and Sahin would give us 'better' options and more variation than sticking to what we have at the moment - which is what craney seemed to be suggesting. He is against the Sahin signing 'because we have gerrard, lucas and allen'. That means we'd have to rely on henderson, spearing or adam in the middle if we had an inury/suspension......and if downing got injured or started playing even worse we'd have to put gerarrd in his place meaning henderson, spearing or adam would have to play centreal midfield. My point was that these 2 inexpensive, risk free signings could make the world of difference.

There's talk that Gerrard could be moved into the front 3, to allow for Lucas, Allen and Sahin to play in the midfield 3, but I can't really see that happening. Either way, it's gonna be interesting to see!

granted he does join it could be very intersting indeed!!

------------------Reina

-------------agger------skrtel
johnson---------------------------enrique

------------------lucas
------gerrard/allen-------sahin

tello/gerrard-----------------------suarez
------------------borini

subs: doni, carroll, downing, allen, carragher, cole, kelly


Looks pretty healthy in terms of depth and variety.

I had midfield as:

ALLEN/SAHIN ..... LUCAS

.... GERARD/SAHIN....

SUAREZ BORINI DOWNING


Sahin being cover

Here come the football manager formations.

If the reports are true, Sahin's intereset in Liverpool is because of our assurances of 1st team football - the one thing Madrid cannot offer. If he does come to us, it won;t be as cover for anyone.

You may not have realised, but teams do have formations and they do have managers. And considering this debate has recently evolved from your bizarre objection to us signing the likes of Sahin and/or Tello, then a selection of pssibilities in the shape of formations makes a very valid post. So fvck off please.

And are you a football manager, outside of football manager then?

We can sit here all day and debate who plays where, but 1) your going on as if Tello is already a Liverpool player, and 2) Your saying that Gerrard had his best season playing on the right wing.

That Maybe so.

But this isn't Steven Gerrard of 5-6 years ago. Ideally you want him behind and in around Suarez, this is how Gerrard works best, playing off of someone, shove him out wide then your encouraging waste crosses with nobody really in the box to put them away.

Unless Carroll comes into the side.