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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: EastMan
while Shelvy was good last night, JA will still give us more, he is better at holding the ball under pressure, can run with it, quicker at closing down and more stamina. but one thing for Shelvy is that he has a bigger passing range.


I know you mean well and clearly want JA to be a success ( we all do), but for you to know so much about him you'd have to have watched him closely for a long time, and I don't believe you have.
Friends of mine (lifelong "jacks"), are very surprised we are trying to sign him, especially for £15m. They like him but concede that he isn't good enough to improve Liverpool and his actual value is more like £5m - that's the quality of player we are pinning our hopes on to get back into the CL. It isn't going to work.


I have watched him closely and what eastman say's is spot on.

I have no idea if these "lifelong jacks" really exsist but if they do I'm wondering what Joe Allen they've been watching and I also know for a fact that Swansea fans do not want him to leave.

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Originally Posted By: murphs75
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: EastMan
while Shelvy was good last night, JA will still give us more, he is better at holding the ball under pressure, can run with it, quicker at closing down and more stamina. but one thing for Shelvy is that he has a bigger passing range.


I know you mean well and clearly want JA to be a success ( we all do), but for you to know so much about him you'd have to have watched him closely for a long time, and I don't believe you have.
Friends of mine (lifelong "jacks"), are very surprised we are trying to sign him, especially for £15m. They like him but concede that he isn't good enough to improve Liverpool and his actual value is more like £5m - that's the quality of player we are pinning our hopes on to get back into the CL. It isn't going to work.


I have watched him closely and what eastman say's is spot on.

I have no idea if these "lifelong jacks" really exsist but if they do I'm wondering what Joe Allen they've been watching and I also know for a fact that Swansea fans do not want him to leave.


You are a c0ck. Again, just because people have a different opinion to you, you think they don't exist or they don't know what they are talking about. How arrogant is that!? Presumably, when you say that you "know for a fact that swansea fans do not want him to leave" this refers to all of them (if they exist that is).
Grow up and accept that different people have different opinions. What are you doing on a Liverpool forum anyway if you're a Swansea season ticket holder? I come here to discuss/debate with Liverpool fans. I think you're a bit lost.

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Regardless of whether these Swansea fans have watched Allen a lot or not, if they believe he won't improve the team at all, then they simply haven't been watching enough of Liverpool and in particular Adam and Spearing. Just by keeping those two out, Liverpool have improved.


Good point. They're not saying he's rubbish or even that they want him to leave...they're just surprised at the fee and the size of the club he is going to because he isn't good enough to make any kind of difference at Liverpool. And £15m for a player that won't make a lot of difference isn't money well spent.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
You are a c0ck. Again, just because people have a different opinion to you, you think they don't exist or they don't know what they are talking about. How arrogant is that!? Presumably, when you say that you "know for a fact that swansea fans do not want him to leave" this refers to all of them (if they exist that is).
Grow up and accept that different people have different opinions. What are you doing on a Liverpool forum anyway if you're a Swansea season ticket holder? I come here to discuss/debate with Liverpool fans. I think you're a bit lost.


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for someone who is so judgemental, youre a disgrace carheex.

abuse will not be tolerated on this forum, well you know.


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for the 5millionth time...........

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Personally, I think he's just a jordan henderson. I don't think he's what we need.

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Personally, I think he's just a jordan henderson. I don't think he's what we need.


I think he looks more solid than Henderson, Hendo did well in a few EPL games and was drafted into the England squad where he did not live up to expectation. Allen has shown great performances for Swansea, Wales and Team GB.

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liverpool midfielders=======
Steven Gerrard •Jordan Henderson •Stewart Downing •Jay Spearing •Lucas Leiva •Charlie Adam •Raheem Sterling •Jonjo Shelvey and now Joe Allen, i think we need to sell one and let at least one out on loan, me personaly i would sell Adam and let Shelvey out on loan i would like to see Sterling getting a chance this season.....


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and Joe Cole of course.

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