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I told you about the situation days ago. It just so happens to be all over the papers now regarding the price Liverpool want, and the player they want on loan as part of the deal.
The tattoo won't change a thing, Agger wants to stay, he is loyal and that is such a rarity in football. But behind the scenes, as Rodgers has been banging on about for a while now about when asked about certain players, "Every player has their price"
This is straight out of FSG's mouth also, sent down, this is what they want out there in the media. The likes of Agger and Carroll have a price, the likes of Suarez get bumper contracts when they're already on 4 years.
We are becoming a selling club, and officials at the club couldn't care if your loyal or not, if they dont want you, and the price comes in, you'll be of. It's the new strategy.
WATCH MONEYBALL. PLEASE. Of course all players have a price! What a silly thing to say. Much as I like Andy Carroll and Daniel Agger there is only one player Liverpool cannot afford to be without at this time, and that's Luis Suarez. Other players could be sold as long as we're being offered above what we perceive to be their market value; there is a finite point above which the money can do more than the player in the long term. This is basic economics, as mastered by Wenger. In two seasons time it may be that even Suarez has his price, and we must definitely look to get rid of him the moment he reaches that final season of peak ability, when we can offload him for a lot and watch him lose his legs on other people's grass. But right now he will be instrumental in how we play over at least the next two seasons, so improving his wages is a necessity. Actually that isn't entirely true. There is another player we can ill afford to be without, provided he returns to the player he was prior to getting injured at Chelsea last season. I would happily drive any player other than these two to their new clubs provided we have replacements lined up and are getting more than their market value from the buyer. I'd be at least a bit concerned about losing a handful of others (Reina [good goalkeepers are very difficult to replace], Johnson, Carroll, Agger, Skrtel, Kelly) but if I'm getting more than my money's worth and the manager has capable replacements then I'd allow the deals were I Werner or Henry. But quite frankly now is the time when we need to start adding to the team rather than continuing to take away from it (Adam and Spearing aside). We have let go Maxi, Aurelio, Kuyt, Bellamy, Aquilani, and a raft of youngsters whose contracts were up (only Amoo deserved another contract among them). We've bought Borini. No matter how good he is he can't replace all of those people. We did not have 25 players "of age" in the squad when we started, and now we have far fewer - quality is one thing, but we won't make top 4 if we only have 14-18 capable players like the Liverpool of old. We absolutely must expand the squad, so I can see Spearing being retained for example. He's expendable, but why merely replace like-for-like when he has more passion for the club than most?
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Apology accepted.
Not that it makes any difference, but one lives in Morriston, 1 by the old stadium and 2 are from the city centre. All are in their 30s or 40s with approx 100years Swansea support between them. Just because you have a different viewpoint to them it doesn't mean they don't exist - otherwise no one would exist!
If you actually read my post I never mentioned anything negative about his time in the championship. Also, what possible reason would they have for saying Joe Allen isn't that good, and what could I hope to gain by repeating what they say? I'm all for anyone coming to Liverpool if it means 1 step closer to the exit for henderson!
Think about what you are writing...
Can I suggest you take up your own advice?! If anybody needs to think before they write its yourself. Your posts a very child like and don't portray you in a good way. Just because your "friends" have 100 years experience doesn't mean they know anything. It would be interesting if you could supply their names or at least where they sit in the stadium. I might even know them. Just out of interest how long did it take you to google places in Swansea?
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Apology accepted.
Not that it makes any difference, but one lives in Morriston, 1 by the old stadium and 2 are from the city centre. All are in their 30s or 40s with approx 100years Swansea support between them. Just because you have a different viewpoint to them it doesn't mean they don't exist - otherwise no one would exist!
If you actually read my post I never mentioned anything negative about his time in the championship. Also, what possible reason would they have for saying Joe Allen isn't that good, and what could I hope to gain by repeating what they say? I'm all for anyone coming to Liverpool if it means 1 step closer to the exit for henderson!
Think about what you are writing...
Can I suggest you take up your own advice?! If anybody needs to think before they write its yourself. Your posts a very child like and don't portray you in a good way. Just because your "friends" have 100 years experience doesn't mean they know anything. It would be interesting if you could supply their names or at least where they sit in the stadium. I might even know them. Just out of interest how long did it take you to google places in Swansea? Pot.Kettle.Black. "Tell me your 'friends' names...." grow up. I don't live far from Swansea and work in the Area fairly frequently which is why I have friends there. If I didn't mention any areas of Swansea you'd predictably say I was making the story up....but because I did mention areas in Swansea you have decided, without any justification other than that my friends have a different viewpoint to your own, that I chose to google them in order to give you an answer. Pathetic. I haven't a clue where they sit in the stadium, why would I?! I don't go to the games with them. And what would be the point in giving you their names? You've already decided that they don't exist just because they have a different viewpoint to you. You still haven't addressed a very important matter here: What possible reason would I have for making up someone else's opinions on joe allen which suggest he is just "ok", when I personally wouldn't mind if we signed him? Use your brain ffs!!!! All of your objection seems to stem from the fact that some people you have never met, don't rate JA quite so highly as you do. That says more about you than it does me.
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Sorry I'm lost on this post, so your a season ticket holder at Swansea?
Do you honestly believe that any Swansea players would improve the top 6 clubs (Liverpool included) in this country?
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Sorry I'm lost on this post, so your a season ticket holder at Swansea?
Do you honestly believe that any Swansea players would improve the top 6 clubs (Liverpool included) in this country?
So he claims. I find it very unusual that a Liverpool fan would be a season ticket at another club, but that's Murph for you....
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Jesus, there has to be better forums than this one..
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Apology accepted.
Not that it makes any difference, but one lives in Morriston, 1 by the old stadium and 2 are from the city centre. All are in their 30s or 40s with approx 100years Swansea support between them. Just because you have a different viewpoint to them it doesn't mean they don't exist - otherwise no one would exist!
If you actually read my post I never mentioned anything negative about his time in the championship. Also, what possible reason would they have for saying Joe Allen isn't that good, and what could I hope to gain by repeating what they say? I'm all for anyone coming to Liverpool if it means 1 step closer to the exit for henderson!
Think about what you are writing...
Can I suggest you take up your own advice?! If anybody needs to think before they write its yourself. Your posts a very child like and don't portray you in a good way. Just because your "friends" have 100 years experience doesn't mean they know anything. It would be interesting if you could supply their names or at least where they sit in the stadium. I might even know them. Just out of interest how long did it take you to google places in Swansea? Pot.Kettle.Black. "Tell me your 'friends' names...." grow up. I don't live far from Swansea and work in the Area fairly frequently which is why I have friends there. If I didn't mention any areas of Swansea you'd predictably say I was making the story up....but because I did mention areas in Swansea you have decided, without any justification other than that my friends have a different viewpoint to your own, that I chose to google them in order to give you an answer. Pathetic. I haven't a clue where they sit in the stadium, why would I?! I don't go to the games with them. And what would be the point in giving you their names? You've already decided that they don't exist just because they have a different viewpoint to you. You still haven't addressed a very important matter here: What possible reason would I have for making up someone else's opinions on joe allen which suggest he is just "ok", when I personally wouldn't mind if we signed him? Use your brain ffs!!!! All of your objection seems to stem from the fact that some people you have never met SHOULDNT THAT BE "WE HAVE NEVER MET?", don't rate JA quite so highly as you do. That says more about you than it does me. I seemed to have touched a nerve?! I'm a season ticket holder at the Liberty because I enjoy watching football. Every other Saturday I get to see live premiere league games. That to me doesn't sound that bizarre?? Did Valencia not improve Manchester United when he joined them from Wigan? Will Victor Moses do well at Chelsea when he joins from Wigan? Will Joe Allen & Ashley Williams improve a Liverpool team who they only finished 5 points behind last season who knows? Lads instead of getting upset try and be productive with your posts.
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Jesus, there has to be better forums than this one.. You will regret registering, absolutely nothing new here.
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Sorry I'm lost on this post, so your a season ticket holder at Swansea?
Do you honestly believe that any Swansea players would improve the top 6 clubs (Liverpool included) in this country?
So he claims. I find it very unusual that a Liverpool fan would be a season ticket at another club, but that's Murph for you.... Don't be suprised - there are soome on here season ticket holders at everton!
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Going back to topic, a tatto isn't saying much, he's been here for a few years so obviously he is a fan now, if he moves on it will soften the blow a bit with the fans. I really like the lad and he is a great footballer but if he keeps playing a few games each season than I am afraid we should sell him at 20m to City or whoever and find a decent replacement. If he does stay then I would be delighted as we are keeping one of our good players but will he play more than 15-20 games? We will just have to wait and see I suppose.
Back to Back World Champions baby!
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