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If we're wise we'd only let Agger go in return for AJ & Dzeko.
We're crying out for a winger and another striker, if we get a payday from City we'll no doubt only be taken to the cleaners by another club for our spoils.
Adam & Spearing can then be shipped out on the cheap with Allen coming in for all I care, but that's a whole other thread entirely.. That's an extremely good point! No one at the club over the last few years seems to have any idea when it comes to transfer fee negotiations so maybe we should concentrate on exchanges.
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I watched them when Swansea were at Anfield last year and when we were at the Liberty Stadium on the last day of the season.
Yeah, last season we spent £100 million on average footballers and we look like we want the same type of player this season! Henderson, Adam, Downing and Carroll couldn't handle the step up so why should I believe that Allen and any others can?
Like I have said in all my posts, do you really believe that this type of signing will help us close the gap on Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Utd and City? I don't... And I'm sure Barcelona didn't want to buy David Villa because he'd spent his entire career in lower league football, and therefore couldn't improve them. What fools they were! Eh? Are you sure about that?
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Agreed about the Allen situation.
The fact he's played under the gaffa befor, played the system that the the gaffa wants to introduce.. he'll no doubt speed up the transition period.
I just don't want to see us going back to Swansea again and again after this.
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Agreed about the Allen situation.
The fact he's played under the gaffa befor, played the system that the the gaffa wants to introduce.. he'll no doubt speed up the transition period.
I just don't want to see us going back to Swansea again and again after this. I'm sure we won't head back there after this, unless they unearth a real gem of a player. But right now our midfield looks a bit lost, in need of someone to show them how it's done. Maybe Allen is only influential for a season, but if during that season players like Henderson and Shelvey cotton onto what they're supposed to be doing as a result of his example, then Allen would be a decent purchase (and he would still have a role in the Carling Cup and Europa League sides should he be bumped from the first team squad).
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I watched them when Swansea were at Anfield last year and when we were at the Liberty Stadium on the last day of the season.
Yeah, last season we spent £100 million on average footballers and we look like we want the same type of player this season! Henderson, Adam, Downing and Carroll couldn't handle the step up so why should I believe that Allen and any others can?
Like I have said in all my posts, do you really believe that this type of signing will help us close the gap on Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Utd and City? I don't... And I'm sure Barcelona didn't want to buy David Villa because he'd spent his entire career in lower league football, and therefore couldn't improve them. What fools they were! Eh? Are you sure about that?  Ok Valencia then. It took a long time before he was playing in La Liga, was the point I was trying to make, and only got to "the top" at 29.
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I told you about the situation days ago. It just so happens to be all over the papers now regarding the price Liverpool want, and the player they want on loan as part of the deal.
The tattoo won't change a thing, Agger wants to stay, he is loyal and that is such a rarity in football. But behind the scenes, as Rodgers has been banging on about for a while now about when asked about certain players, "Every player has their price"
This is straight out of FSG's mouth also, sent down, this is what they want out there in the media. The likes of Agger and Carroll have a price, the likes of Suarez get bumper contracts when they're already on 4 years.
We are becoming a selling club, and officials at the club couldn't care if your loyal or not, if they dont want you, and the price comes in, you'll be of. It's the new strategy.
WATCH MONEYBALL. PLEASE.
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I watched them when Swansea were at Anfield last year and when we were at the Liberty Stadium on the last day of the season.
Yeah, last season we spent £100 million on average footballers and we look like we want the same type of player this season! Henderson, Adam, Downing and Carroll couldn't handle the step up so why should I believe that Allen and any others can?
Like I have said in all my posts, do you really believe that this type of signing will help us close the gap on Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Utd and City? I don't... I have a few friends who are lifelong, diehard Swansea fans - their opinion on Allen is that he's a decent player for a side like Swansea. He did well for them in the Championship but appears to struggle a bit with the step up to the premiership - bascially, he's a competent championship player. They heard on the grapevine, that towards the end of last season another premiership club were sniffing around and were quoted £5m, which they would have been more than happy to take. The rumour going around is that the club in question was Wigan. They, and many others, are very surprised that a club like Liverpool would be looking at him and cannot believe the money being mentioned. I'm not going to claim that I have watched JA play an awful lot but when I have watched him I've seen nothing special, and certainly nothing to suggest he is worth anywhere near £15m. The only positive is that if he does sign it should mean less games for Henderson. I'm sorry but that's complete bollox. Where abouts in Swansea do they live? I'm actually a season ticket holder at the Liberty stadium and I can re assure you that Joe Allen was a vital cog in that Swansea team last year. Your friends either don't exist or are absolutely clueless.
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I'd say it's curtains for spearinig if he signs this Allen player.
I can't say its the one area where we don't need a player (as our midfield is just above mediochre at the moment & depends on gerrard having a good game) but I would much rahter see him chasing after a forward ramirez being the only one i know we are rumoured to be in the mix for.
In terms of purchases by KD they have turned out disasterous.
Adam total disaster; henderson seems to have a different style to pass and move football; spearing local lad (not allowed to criticise him apparantly) and downing..
Some one has to be bought but I just hope he can put tackles in , lucas is/was good at breaking up play but the rest cant tackle with the exception of spearing but he can't pass!
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I'd say it's curtains for spearinig if he signs this Allen player.
I can't say its the one area where we don't need a player (as our midfield is just above mediochre at the moment & depends on gerrard having a good game) but I would much rahter see him chasing after a forward ramirez being the only one i know we are rumoured to be in the mix for.
In terms of purchases by KD they have turned out disasterous.
Adam total disaster; henderson seems to have a different style to pass and move football; spearing local lad (not allowed to criticise him apparantly) and downing..
Some one has to be bought but I just hope he can put tackles in , lucas is/was good at breaking up play but the rest cant tackle with the exception of spearing but he can't pass! I think buying Allen and signing Sahin on loan would be a big step.
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Apology accepted.
Not that it makes any difference, but one lives in Morriston, 1 by the old stadium and 2 are from the city centre. All are in their 30s or 40s with approx 100years Swansea support between them. Just because you have a different viewpoint to them it doesn't mean they don't exist - otherwise no one would exist!
If you actually read my post I never mentioned anything negative about his time in the championship. Also, what possible reason would they have for saying Joe Allen isn't that good, and what could I hope to gain by repeating what they say? I'm all for anyone coming to Liverpool if it means 1 step closer to the exit for henderson!
Think about what you are writing...
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