KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Daniel Agger's new tattoo is YNWA , is he staying ??

He's also spent the past 39 years 11 months trying to eradicate and hide his missus too!

Haha, Ok...

This is why were struggling because our fans are now thinking Joe Allen, Ashley Williams, etc. will be good players for us.

We are never in a million years going to close the gap on the top teams with these types of signings!

Who do recommend we bring in then?

As a replacement for Agger? I honestly have no idea because I don't think we could buy anyone better, hence why I really don't want to see him leave!

With regards to midfield, Santi for £16mil is a player we should have gone all out for! I also don't think we should be signing central midfielders when we are overloaded with average one's already, Spearing and Adam being the two who should be looking to get rid of ASAP! We desperately need width, flair and pace, pretty much the same as the last 3 years!

Interesting article, though as mentioned in the comments Agger doesn't pass backwards much, so his passing accuracy is likely lower because Reina is pretty easy is pick out. It's also important to remember that zonal marking forces you to pick him over Carragher every time (even if only because Agger is faster over the surface). We need someone with his abilities, even if he isn't the best statistically - and ball-playing CBs with his ability to read the game don't grow on trees.

For me though he plays far too little. Were he able to play 25-30 league games per season Man City would have to offer 35m before I even returned their call. But he can't, and it's not like he's featured much in non-league games to balance this. If we get City up to anywhere near 25m I think we should sell; 20m is basically his value, and we shouldn't be looking to sell an important player at his value.

As for tattoos, well, Torres proved they can be removed...

The players we have now havent exactly set the world on fire have they?

Do you have first hand knowledge of Allen & Willams? Ever seen them play apart from on tv?

These two players help Swansea finish 5 points behind Liverpool who spent 100million on players.

I watched them when Swansea were at Anfield last year and when we were at the Liberty Stadium on the last day of the season.

Yeah, last season we spent £100 million on average footballers and we look like we want the same type of player this season! Henderson, Adam, Downing and Carroll couldn't handle the step up so why should I believe that Allen and any others can?

Like I have said in all my posts, do you really believe that this type of signing will help us close the gap on Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Utd and City? I don't...

If we're wise we'd only let Agger go in return for AJ & Dzeko.

We're crying out for a winger and another striker, if we get a payday from City we'll no doubt only be taken to the cleaners by another club for our spoils.

Adam & Spearing can then be shipped out on the cheap with Allen coming in for all I care, but that's a whole other thread entirely..

I have a few friends who are lifelong, diehard Swansea fans - their opinion on Allen is that he's a decent player for a side like Swansea. He did well for them in the Championship but appears to struggle a bit with the step up to the premiership - bascially, he's a competent championship player.
They heard on the grapevine, that towards the end of last season another premiership club were sniffing around and were quoted £5m, which they would have been more than happy to take. The rumour going around is that the club in question was Wigan. They, and many others, are very surprised that a club like Liverpool would be looking at him and cannot believe the money being mentioned.

I'm not going to claim that I have watched JA play an awful lot but when I have watched him I've seen nothing special, and certainly nothing to suggest he is worth anywhere near £15m. The only positive is that if he does sign it should mean less games for Henderson.

And I'm sure Barcelona didn't want to buy David Villa because he'd spent his entire career in lower league football, and therefore couldn't improve them. What fools they were!

It's not about the individual - it's about his impact within the team and within the system. Torres could have equalled Ian Rush as a legendary striker had he stayed, not because he's good (look at how much impact he has had at Chelsea and Spain) but because the system was tailored to his strengths (running onto the ball, shooting, competing physically for the ball, closing down) and eliminated his weaknesses (back to goal, can't beat a man, can't pass).

I would suggest that Rodgers knows a bit more about who will make an impact for the squad than we ever will, and if he firmly believes Allen's familiarity with his system will be worth more to Liverpool than hoping someone like Gaston Ramirez settles immediately into English football and the English lifestyle AND has an amazing first season, then I'm with the gaffer. But he must pay value for the player, not silly money.