KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum avrage team. Needs to be said

look ive been thinking and if we all just take our die hard red glasses off and think long and hard about our club im sure we ll all agree. Yes rafa might not be the man 4 the job and the owners are wrong.and results are bad. But what makes us think we should be up there. yes we got gr8 history which where all proud of and a couple of worldclass players.(1 WE DIDNT HAVE TO BUY).but all the rest are over paid average players.and if it was not for are huge fan base we,d be in even more trouble.football is now won on who as the most finances a well run board room a good cheif ex and a gr8 manager.(WHO CAN ADMIT WHEN HE IS WRONG)this will lead to top players good results trophies and then happy fans. a team never won the league without theses.AND WE SHOLUD KNOW.we had the lot of them for years.

we have the core of a great team reina,carra,gerrard,torres
some decent players johnson,masch,benayoun,kuyt,lucas,aqua
some young players ngog,insua,kelly,pacheco,ayala,darby
some bad vorinon,kyriakos,dossena

with some minor changes to the playing staff and tactics e.g a new manager, then we would be stronger and winning more

what im saying is you need every thing to be right if the board are wrong they dont support the manager. he then gets upset and then in turn that affects the players and the team. every club that as won the league as and gone on to win it year after year. as had all of these look at chelsea they where doing gr8 until board and manager stop gettin on

spot on m8

What makes me thinks we should be up there?

WE ARE LIVERPOOL FC WE SET THE STANDARD FOR EVEYBODY ELSE TO FOLLOW.

Thats why we know we should be up there.

It's easy to say that but times have changed mate.

To a certain extent, I agree with ceb. Remember how Blackburn last won the league under dalglish? They had to break the transfer record twice to buy shearer and sutton. That made a huge difference. It's about money, money and more money these days. There's only so far a manager can bring a team to. Without good backing from the board and owners to bring in good players and build a good team, no matter how much heritage we have as a club, we are but an average team.

yes but here's the thing. if we were average we'd be delighted with our league position i.e. as woukld villa spurs etc. but we are not. we are disgusted with it, and not cause we live off the past, but because we have seen this squad of players devour opposition. we are a great club, whether we like it or not.

What makes a great player? certainly not money. It is their skill, passion and knowledge (to name a few) - And where do we find this? our young guys have talent in abundance.- Spearing, Pacheco, Ngog etc
It would make sense to mold and use them instead of the average highly paid players we are complaining about.

Last year we came second and almost won, but for some pretty stupid draws with almost the same team. In fact the additions (Johnson and Aqua), are clearly decent. I don't think the poor performance can be put down to just the loss of Alonso. Rafa has clearly lost the team and it seems that they are done playing for him, especially Gerrard. That is a problem. Unless we all feel Rafa can get us to 4th by seasons end, He should go.

you could even argue that this seasons squad is BETTER then last seasons!! johnson and aqua for alonso hmm