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Not out of sentiment at all, I believe he has the ability to play for Liverpool Football Club and showed it at the end of last season. In the crunch games, the games that really matter, he was there, our only shining light in the FA Cup final and I believe it is downright wrong to bomb somebody out like we're seeing here, especially when the manager of the football club has been saying differently for weeks now, with all the "he is good enough, he wants to stay, I'm not looking at loaning somebody out that cost £35mill" etc etc etc

Once again, your clouding your judgment over Pepe Reina, just say it how you see it, he hasn't had one bad season like your making out, he hasn't been very good since Rafa left for f*cks sake!

Just because the man holds some position at the club and is good ol' Pepe Reina, does not make him a good goalkeeper. Your looking at him as the man, and as a man, he might be a great man, but as a goalie, he is not as good as he was, and he wasn't very good to begin with.

TBH I'm sick to the back teeth of hearing all these defenses and excuses of players, who just haven't cut it for a couple of years now, exactly the same with golden boy Gerrard.

Please, just open your eyes! We need to if we are going to move forward!

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Originally Posted By: craney91
Not out of sentiment at all, I believe he has the ability to play for Liverpool Football Club and showed it at the end of last season. In the crunch games, the games that really matter, he was there, our only shining light in the FA Cup final and I believe it is downright wrong to bomb somebody out like we're seeing here, especially when the manager of the football club has been saying differently for weeks now, with all the "he is good enough, he wants to stay, I'm not looking at loaning somebody out that cost £35mill" etc etc etc

Once again, your clouding your judgment over Pepe Reina, just say it how you see it, he hasn't had one bad season like your making out, he hasn't been very good since Rafa left for f*cks sake!

Just because the man holds some position at the club and is good ol' Pepe Reina, does not make him a good goalkeeper. Your looking at him as the man, and as a man, he might be a great man, but as a goalie, he is not as good as he was, and he wasn't very good to begin with.

TBH I'm sick to the back teeth of hearing all these defenses and excuses of players, who just haven't cut it for a couple of years now, exactly the same with golden boy Gerrard.

Please, just open your eyes! We need to if we are going to move forward!


What do you mean I'm looking at him man to man? Do I know him to judge how he is, no. I see everybody as a player or a manager, his goalkeeping stats this year is much better than most the keepers in the EPL, so dont come out with your 'sentiment' bull crap.

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What do you mean I'm looking at him man to man? Do I know him to judge how he is, no. I see everybody as a player or a manager, his goalkeeping stats this year is much better than most the keepers in the EPL, so dont come out with your 'sentiment' bull crap.


What???!?!!!!!?????????

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What do you mean I'm looking at him man to man? Do I know him to judge how he is, no. I see everybody as a player or a manager, his goalkeeping stats this year is much better than most the keepers in the EPL, so dont come out with your 'sentiment' bull crap.


What???!?!!!!!?????????


What do you mean what, he played over 3000 minutes and conceded 35 goals, that is decent to me.

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Pepe Reina conceded 35 goals last season:

Mignolet 33
Begovic 31
Hart 29
de Gea 29
Sorensen 22
Stockdale 14
Westwood 11
Cerny 7

All conceded less

Pepe Reina kept 12 clean sheets:

Hart 17
Krul 15
Vorm 14
Friedel 14
Szczesny 13
de Gea 13

All kept more

Pepe Reina saved 0 Penalties last season:

Al-Habsi 4
Howard 2
Krul 2
Vorm 2
Foster 2
Szczesny 1
Jones 1
Hart 1
de Gea 1
Ruddy 1
Rudd 1
Mignolet 1

All saved more

Pepe Reina made 85 saves last season

Vorm 143
Ruddy 140
Al-Habsi 130
Friedel 118
Krul 114
de Gea 111
Foster 109
Schwarzer 106
Hart 99
Given 96
Cech 94
Mignolet 91
Howard 88

All saved more

Pepe Reina played 3051 minutes

Szczesny 3420
Howard 3420
Hart 3420
Krul 3420
Friedel 3420
Al-Habsi 3420
Vorm 3330
Foster 3330
Ruddy 3319
Cech 3060

All played more

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cranry no offence but those figures should be in percentages,
the last ones , reina played less, well would explain why he made less saves?, and then you get good goalies making lots of saves as they have creaking defences in front.
LFC defence wasnt bad
But totally agreed reina has drifted and think it may (possibly) have rubbed off on enriqué who was excellent but has been poor lacking concentration for 3 mths of football season.

Reina needs to go in my view IF HE STARTS OFF this season like he ended last season

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I'm just trying to get some perspective, that Reina is nowhere near as good as some people are making out. The minutes he has played is not much less than the other keepers mentioned. I'm proving a point, some of those keepers play in far worser sides with worser defences and were called up and needed many times more than Pepe Reina was and still performed at a higher level, week in, week out.

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I think we drew teams on to us too much last season thus putting pressure on our keeper, there were also too many mistakes by defenders particularly our wing defenders. We will be playing a very different style this season with a much higher line and that will suit Reina better. I would give Reina the benefit of the doubt and see how it goes with our new style this season, as cjkent likes to say no need for panic just yet.

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Originally Posted By: Annefield58
I think we drew teams on to us too much last season thus putting pressure on our keeper, there were also too many mistakes by defenders particularly our wing defenders. We will be playing a very different style this season with a much higher line and that will suit Reina better. I would give Reina the benefit of the doubt and see how it goes with our new style this season, as cjkent likes to say no need for panic just yet.


What are they?

I agree 100% though, all of our full backs are liability's when defending, both Enrique and Johnson make so many mistakes that lead to goalscoring opportunity's through simple passes into the miles of space they leave in behind. It's normally a ball out wide in between full back and centre back that kills us every time. So open at the back in those areas, its begging to conceed.

Funny thing is though, both of them are still here and both of them will start games for us next season to.

More of the same next season then?

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am going to give Reina until xmas to get his finger out or I want him out the Club, he has been poor two seasons ago and last season went from poor to a disgrace ending with that performance for the first goal in the Cup Final, him and Dracular are alike in that both are scared of crosses, another person who has got until xmas is Enrique.

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