KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum would you accept the sale of Stevie and Torres?

i will take 80 million for Stevie. not for Torres at the moment as he can only get better...

never ever who would come in to replace them as they are the only reason any other world class would sign for us

Torres 80

Gerrard 50

Mascherano 35-40

Round about 150 million, we start fresh.

Look guys it clear we cant compete, this new guy at man city is going bring in big names as soon as he gets settled.

Skynews reporting Bolatelli going to man city. Our club cant compete for the Auguerros, Villas, Benzemas, Maicons etc

We looking o bargain buy Van Nistelrooy of loan. We looking to buy youg players with potential.

Maybe we got look at ourselves properly and say this club isnt on the same table as the rich clubs. We cant buy the same quality. So many players we have losy due to lack of cash. Barry, Malouda, Alves, Villa, Vidic, Walcott, Evra, Kaladze.

We end up with Voronin, Degen. I mean if rafa can see quality in torres, Reina, Arbeloa for sure he can see Degen and Voronin aint the qulaity we need.

We aint the same club as the big buyers. The yanks arent going throw money at us like the Arabs do.

I refelct of Ferguson, he didnt tolerate David Beckhams crap.

He got rid of him, he got rid of van nistelrooy too.

So it makes me thing maybe Stevie s the problem, cos he has a kind of Aura, and all other players look up to him, he comes across as invincible.

Ill all fairness, he is our greatest players, but if we look at this season he is erribly off form. He is my favorite player.

Makes me wonder if we sell him, would it be better for us or not?

There wouldnt be a world star that stands out above all the players, a player that demands the respect.

No player is greater than the club

I think Stevie is the problem, for sure. Cos he such a great player, he is surrounded by players that are not on his level. He is the heartbeat of LFC. if he is off, the engine of teh team isnt running. If he has no faith in his teamamates, he is dragged down, that results in the team dragged down.

I mean do you honestly think Stevie has confidence is playing with Lucas?

Here is a articel i see now discussing Steven gerrard:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/c...om-1983215.html

In summary is says:

This is because the strategy of surrounding Gerrard with players he respects is failing and Benitez's regime is going down with it.

But Liverpool can no longer afford such a captain. They can no longer afford a world-class star whose unquestioned brilliance increasingly seems to embarrass and constrain some of those around him.

similar thing to what i have said all along ..... i have thought for a long time stevie g had too much power and had become more than a player - always a mistake for a player to become more important to a club than a manager

I'd rather not see him sold but now could be a good time. Everyone thought Henry leaving Arsenal would be the death of them but they actually played better.

Still, I don't think I could live with seeing him in another Prem team at Anfield.