We were a disgrace last season I think the worst I have ever seen including the Souness era. But we definetly in witb a chance of fourth spot Arsenal are our main rivals I think we can see off Spurs and Newscastle and Everton are not in the equation for me. They overachieved as much as wse underachieved. I also think we have some good youngsters coming through and a few will be knocking on the door this season.
stanley player for player there is nothing between us and Everton, you only have to look at the last 3 seasons to see how close we are so it's nothing to do with us having a bad season. I am also very suprised that you so easily write of Newcastle and Spurs who for me have both got teams with better players than us, Newcastle in the attacking sense and Spurs in there first 11 and squad. I think under Brendan Rogers we can improve as we surely could'nt get any worse but for me this season is all about steadying the ship, we need to stabilise before we look to progress and hopefuly this will be done as the season progresses, to suggest Arsenal are our main rivals is in my opinion foolhardy, we need to be targeting Everton and Newcastle in the next two seasons before anyone else.
I understand what you're saying, but don't think it's that bad.
We should certainly be targetting the top 4. That sends a message to the manager and players, current and future, that that's where the club expects to be. Anything less than that is not acceptable BUT that's not to say that it will result in a sacking.
Hence I agree with Stanley that we should be regarding Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle and
maybe even Chealsea, as our likely nearest rivals. Everton should be our measure at the other end. i.e. if we're not comfortably clear of Everton then I'd consider that to be a very poor outcome. That's not being disrespectful to Everton. It's just a recognition that we have significantly more resources than them and therefore if we can't pull clear of them then there's definitely something wrong with our setup.
