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He says it as he sees it be that positive or negative...so if thats not to your liking he is a wum?Remember he called Kenny,Suarez and where we would finish right so maybe he knows what he`s talking about whether you like it or not.

I just dont think this high expecatancy level, thinking we are better than we actualy are, defending the team and Club when we should'nt be and living off the back of past glories is not helping the Club at all, in fact I think it's harming us, this is just my opinion.

If longmoorlane wants to post pessimistic things whats your problem? its his view. Or are we saying we should only allow so called positive opinions? All sides of the spectrum should be allowed and I say that as someone who disagrees with his stance.

if we never disagreed this forum would be finished, imagine how boring it would be, I think 4th is a pipe dream for a Club like ours in the modern football world others disagree and say the good times are just around the corner and 4th is a possibility, time will tell at the end of the season who is right and who is wrong, am pretty confident I will be proved right, like I have been on many other occasions with such predictions even if they are not popular and people say it's negative.

It doesnt matter if your right or wrong you shouldnt get stick/abuse for your own views,im surprised the site owner allows it to be honest.

I think you may be right (you was last year) but longmoor I feel there is room for hope in football. Most likely 5th or 6th for me but is 4th out of the question? I feel no. With luck and some good signings we could do it. Last season I feel it was more Liverpool imploading rather than the others being good. 3rd or 4th was ours for the taking but we were hopeless. I happen to believe Dalglish is the worst manager ever to take office at Liverpool and I will argue that with anyone. Just having a decent manager will lift us this season.

I think we will improve, but its going to be a slow progress, when I look at how far we can go I look at our rivals and how powerful they are compared to us, Newcastle, Everton and Spurs are all catchable in my opinion if we improve over the next 3 to 5 seasons, one will be hopefuly caught next season. When I look at the big four in this country I just cant see how we will catch them as they are too big and powerful, alrite we may build and develop good young talented players but all that will happen then is one of the big four will take him off us or if he is really good then Barca or Madrid will snap him up. Liverpool now are what your Aston Villa and Sheffield Wednesday were to us back in the 80s, big old famous Clubs who have been sadly left behind, the big five in the 80's were Liverpool, Everton, United, Arsenal and Spurs the big five now are United, City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs it's just the way football has gone unfortunately, you would never of tipped Villa or Sheff Wed to break into the top four then so i dont understand why fans tipp us now.

I haven't seen anybody say he's not allowed to repeatedly post his negative, derogatory and pessimistic opinions Stanley, In fact I said already on this thread that he is so entitled. However when someone posts that Suarez, Gerrard, Johnson, Renia, etc are "[oops] poor" it doesn't enhance his credibility and I think you should expect a reaction from loyal fans. In fact anyone who would post such an obviously silly statement is just looking for notice and trying to wind people up and therefore not to be taken seriously.

We are not that bad longmoor. We could end up like that but not there yet. I think if Rodgers fails then FSG and us are in big trouble. But not yet.

Which is why we need to get behind Rodgers.

Some of these players need to take a hard look at themselves,going back to the end of the Benitez era,especially during Roys reign and through some of Kennys.I certainly have no respect for certain players for their shambolic attitude through dark days under the last owners.