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I have had a good think today and my conclusions are we should not sack Rafa at this time.

Rather we should get behind him and the team at this stage. But noting some issues for his performance review later in the season.

This is for two reasons.

The first is I think it’s a little too early. Liverpool FC have a long history of giving their managers time even when things are not going well. Last season we finished second and although the fall has been spectacular the season is only half over. So we need to wait until the end of the season before passing final judgement.

Second the bigger issue for me is the ownership question. Until the ownership question is resolved we are probably better sticking with Rafa in the short term. The worst case scenario would be to pay Rafa off (expensive) and then appoint another B list manager. Then for a major investor to come in at a later stage and we are in a Man City / Mark Hughes scenario.

So as difficult as it is at the moment we need to take care we don’t get into a worse mess than we are now. Given we are one of the world’s top clubs we must have an A list manager if we replace Rafa and for me that means Mourinho or someone of his stature.


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no use getting behind the team , if the team don`t want to play for Rafa anymore , with a new coach encouraging them and sharing their enthusiasm for scoring goals and not `just putting his glasses away ` may help more in the long run !!

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The only problem is that time - and the excuses - are running out.

Our performances are dire. Now most have been prepared to give rafa time this season because of the amounty of players injured, but even now most, if not all, of the first team are back playing, things are still not showing signs of getting any better.

I sat and watched the Hull game on the telly this afternoon, and sad though it is to say it, I enjoyed that a damn sight more than I have enjoyed any of our performances.

As for the owners, there is nothing the fans or Rafa can do abvout them, and I cant see that Rafa is that bothered about them as he has not long signed a major contract extension. I just dont see new owners coming in any time soon, and to leave the questions about a new manager until that issue is resolved could well mean a long wait.

I agree we need to have an A list manager, but would not be too heartbroken if a certain Kenny Dalglish was appointed interim manager till the end of the season, with Sammy Lee as his 2nd in command.

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don`t forget Newcastle did that with shearer , look where that got them , times change , offer Huddink job till end of season , see how far he gets .

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
If it is just playing a bit poorly, getting bad results, then you could reasonably wait until the end of the season. but as I said months ago, IF (and I can't say for sure, but it appears so) the manager has lost the dressing room, and the players won't play for him, that manager needs to go immediately. There is no comeback from that.


Yes buddy, its a big IF. cos none of us know for sure.

if we stays and the players dont support him, its counterproductive.


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Originally Posted By: gerrarddaboss
don`t forget Newcastle did that with shearer , look where that got them , times change , offer Huddink job till end of season , see how far he gets .


well I wouldnt mind that either!

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i dont want to see Kenny incharge of this team.i dont think i could bare to hear and read people blaming him if things dont go right.we need a good coach to get the best out of what we have.currently the club isn't worth a lot with no new stadium,being out of the CL and not looking like qualifying for the next one.so we wont be seeing new owners for a long time.
forget about Hidink,Mourinio and other so called a-list names.we need a solid man with good coaching ability.someone who doesn't think he is a bigger name than the club.
Rafa does need to go and he needs to go now this crap has been going on too long.no-one on here can offer a good reason for him to stay because he cant offer a good reason himself.
sack Rafa and get Hodgson.

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Why wont we be seeing new owners ? If the team are out of the CL next season that will be reflected in the price plus it might encourage the Yanks to give up the ghost. We are still a major brand


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Rafa must go. He has lost the dressing room and I honestly think he's playing the game of getting himself sacked.

Get someone with passion in. Someone who can instill self belief and motivation in the players. Don't have to be an A-list manager. Just someone who cares a damn about fighting for the ball on the pitch!

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sorry stanley park but he has to go, he cuts a figure of a man that has no idea of how to get out of the situation and a man with no ideas. It very plain that the dressing room has gone and that the commitment is not there (well apart from Torres he tries regardless)

If the team has lost the respect of the manager it doesn't matter how good a manager you are it cannot comeback.

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