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When does the "Book of Stan" go on sale then wink

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No it's not panic to resist having some smart ass owners trying to manage our expectations downwards and theres been a few examples of that in recent times, both with regards to the teams performance and the stadium issue. I think we should resist it loud and clear and demand more ambition all round. We were taken for a ride by Hicks and Gillett and we would be fools to let a new posse of cowboys do it to us again.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Nobody is more negative than me(Well apart from Careex and longlane) but even I think we could get 4th spot. Not easy but it is a realistic target especially if Arsenal or chelsea slip up which they did last year but we were even worse
Stanley both Arsenal and Chelsea are not going to slip up again this year, Arsenal were probably the best team in the League in the second half of the season after a dreadful start, Chelsea will be a diffrent team after winning the Champions League and it looks to of sparked Roman's passion and wallett. You are forgeting two small details firstly if Chelsea and Arsenal did slip up which I cant see again as being bad as last time, you have Spurs and Newcastle who at the moment are ahead of us and will fill those places before us, Stanley we are currently a team and club going backwards, there is nothing to suggest that the form we finished with wont be the form we start the season with, nothing whatsover so if your going to say have hope for finishing in the top four you may as well push the boat out and say win the league too as what you are saying is blind hope letting your heart rule you head which is'nt the real world unfortunately.

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You saying Arsenal were the best team in the 2nd half last year equates to us been the best team in the 2nd half the year before, ie it carries no weight into the next season.

Spurs are going to lose Modric, have lost King and may not resign Adebayor. They also have a new manager and that could take time to bed in as well.

Newcastle overachieved last season and would do well to have a similar season this year although it is looking likely that they are going to keep their team together.

Liverpool face an uphill task to get 4th but it is not impossible and they could maintain a consistent challenge for it this year even if they do eventually miss out on it but it is possible despite your pessimism

And no fan truly believes we can win the league this year and with the exception of one or two no one is saying that.

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Originally Posted By: longmoorlane
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Nobody is more negative than me(Well apart from Careex and longlane) but even I think we could get 4th spot. Not easy but it is a realistic target especially if Arsenal or chelsea slip up which they did last year but we were even worse
Stanley both Arsenal and Chelsea are not going to slip up again this year, Arsenal were probably the best team in the League in the second half of the season after a dreadful start, Chelsea will be a diffrent team after winning the Champions League and it looks to of sparked Roman's passion and wallett. You are forgeting two small details firstly if Chelsea and Arsenal did slip up which I cant see again as being bad as last time, you have Spurs and Newcastle who at the moment are ahead of us and will fill those places before us, Stanley we are currently a team and club going backwards, there is nothing to suggest that the form we finished with wont be the form we start the season with, nothing whatsover so if your going to say have hope for finishing in the top four you may as well push the boat out and say win the league too as what you are saying is blind hope letting your heart rule you head which is'nt the real world unfortunately.

Well we do have something to suggest the form we finished with will not be the form we start with next season, we have a new manager, a new style of play, a new signing and possibly one or even two more to come, a couple of players back off loan who fit the style our manager will play with and a couple of our young players knocking on the door of the first team, also it's unlikely our goal famine of last year is unlikely to repeat, so of course we can aspire to a top 4 finish. You would have to be mired in extreme negativity not to have hope and some positivity going into the new season.

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Now Gerrard saying he is confident of top4 finish this year?new manager saying it will take years?

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think the BR meant it will take years before we can challange for the PL title, i think aiming for top 4 is a decent goal this season although i think will depend on how the first 6games go imo so we should probs hold off on making targets until those first few games are out the way

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Cant see top4 for ages I think Gerrard is preparing for life as a comedian TBH,too much been spent by other clubs while are owners look to consolidate mediocracy,sad times for our club.

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if you look at the starting eleven theres no reason why we cant make top 4 if they keep fit. i really do think we need to keep aqua and cole tho alot of people will slate me for that but i honestly think they are better options than adam spearing and hendo! think positive top 4 this season!!!!!!!!!!!

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I agree Deco we should keep as many players as we can,last year a few injuries made our midfield look painfully ordinary,top 4 for us will depend on other teams failing miserably and I cant see us jumping from 8th to 4th without huge investment.

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