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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
No your not its just some have knocked their glass over. We do have a chance of getting fourth. And its worth trying for in my opinion. Chelsea and Arsenal are the teams to beat what happened in league placings last two seasons means nothing.
stanley I admire your optimism but seriously mate fourth is never on, the first thing we need to do is stabilise the team as we are currently on a downward spiral, we are in the bottom four worst teams since January, this needs to be addressed first before anything winning 6 games at home all season, we even lost about 6 on the trot, this is hardly a good basis to be predicting an outside chance of fourth.

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We are not on a downward spiral we were with king kenny that was management not the players theres no way this team will get relegated which they were on that trajectory with Dalglish from Jan. I would be staggered if we started off like that.


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4th is a possibility but an outside one at that. We were in a slide under Kenny so the management have addressed that by bringing in BR.

In the 6 month period that Kenny took over we were accumulating points at a champions league level so there is no reason why we can't play slightly under that level even and still qualify for it.

I don't get your predictions of doom and gloom. I get that you think we won't qualify for it and will be lucky to finish 6th etc etc but how you can have absolutely zero optimism and 100% belief that we will fail frankly baffles me

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We're better than Newcastle. Lowest is 7th, highest is 3rd.

How have we got as much chance of winning the league as finishing 4th?... I think/hope we'll finish 4th. I'll take 3-1 if anyone wants £50 on it.


Explain....


Sorry, I forgot here you have to begin with 'In my opinon...'.

In my opinion, we have a better first team than Newcastle. For starters, I don't think Ba will have as good season as the first half last year, I'm just glad we didn't pay £35m for him.
We had a bad season, they had a great season, it doesn't mean they've got a much better team and will continue to improve. Talk of Liverpool needing 'stablising' to prevent sliding down the table is daft too. If we finish 8th again, the season can be considered an epic fail.

It was a p*ss poor season in almost every way and I can't see as much going wrong. The 2nd half we just seemed to capitulate.

I'm not saying we have a great chance but the amount of pessimism on here is suprising.

How exactly is it 100% spot on to say we have zero chance of 4th or as much chance of winning the league?

Does anyone thing United have that much better team than us? Certainly not 47 points better. We can match any team on the day. If we improve home form and become more consistent against lower teams, 4th should be acheivable. Granted, BR will have to implement his ideas quickly, maybe I'm just a glass half full kind of guy....


Utd DO have a much better team than us and they WERE worthy of their 37 point lead on us. No wonder other team's fans laugh at us when some people are in such denial. The table doesn't lie. Every team finished in exactly the place that they deserved to be.

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Agreed but that was last season this season wont excatly replicate last season. What is missing from your analysis Carreex is hope and ambition prerequistites for success. We are capable of 4th it will be hard but its crazy to assume 8th place is our limit because it occurred last season.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Agreed but that was last season this season wont excatly replicate last season. What is missing from your analysis Carreex is hope and ambition prerequistites for success. We are capable of 4th it will be hard but its crazy to assume 8th place is our limit because it occurred last season.


Exactly, I may be optimistic but suddenly Newcastle are a much better team than us? Fergie got a good team playing consistently well/getting results, all I'm saying is BR could do the same. Be a pessimist if you don't want the dissapointment, but we've got a 'reasonable' chance at 4th.
I'd put any amount of money on us not finishing 8th again (or lower) despite the fact we're clearly the 8th best team in the league.

Other teams fans laugh at us now? Just us?

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