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7th place for me, hoefuly within 10 or 12 points off 4th place I will see that as an improvement, as for those predicting 4th not a hope in hell's chance in fact we have just as much chance finishing 4th as actualy winning the League, absolutey zero.

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Originally Posted By: longmoorlane
7th place for me, hoefuly within 10 or 12 points off 4th place I will see that as an improvement, as for those predicting 4th not a hope in hell's chance in fact we have just as much chance finishing 4th than actualy winning the League, absolutey zero.


Longlane you are in a good mood today. I thought you would say 18th place and John Henry is found out to be bankrupt.


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7th place for me, hoefuly within 10 or 12 points off 4th place I will see that as an improvement, as for those predicting 4th not a hope in hell's chance in fact we have just as much chance finishing 4th than actualy winning the League, absolutey zero.


Longlane you are in a good mood today. I thought you would say 18th place and John Henry is found out to be bankrupt.
nope stanley I think the lowest we will go this season could be 9th highest maybe 6 but thats highly unlikely because Newcastle are better than us as we speak.

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We're better than Newcastle. Lowest is 7th, highest is 3rd.

How have we got as much chance of winning the league as finishing 4th?... I think/hope we'll finish 4th. I'll take 3-1 if anyone wants £50 on it.

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Originally Posted By: longmoorlane
7th place for me, hoefuly within 10 or 12 points off 4th place I will see that as an improvement, as for those predicting 4th not a hope in hell's chance in fact we have just as much chance finishing 4th as actualy winning the League, absolutey zero.


You get an awful lot of stick on here, but the above post is 100% spot on. I would add that as long as we don't fall below 8th we should be satisfied because it shows that BR has stabilised our shocking freefall under Kenny which could very easily have ended in relegation if.
We've got a good manager now so there is no reason why we should end up behind Everton again. Chelsea have spent a fortune already and will probably be challenging for the title again. Catching newcastle would be a massive achievement considering they finished 13 points above us last season so it has to be 7th place. As for the domestic cups - who gives a t0ss!?...but I'd like to see us do well enough in the Europa League to attract some better players for next year.

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We're better than Newcastle. Lowest is 7th, highest is 3rd.

How have we got as much chance of winning the league as finishing 4th?... I think/hope we'll finish 4th. I'll take 3-1 if anyone wants £50 on it.


Explain....

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Newcastle finishing 13 points ahead of us last season doesn't matter in the upcoming season. Things didn't work out under Kenny at all and we had our worst season for god knows how long. Newcastle also overachieved and had their best season for 14/15 years. To catch them and Everton I don't think is unrealistic.

Spurs are a different prospect but currently it is hard to tell how there season will go. They are struggling to reach an agreement with Adebayor and I think Lokomotiv Moscow are waiting in the wings to tempt him with full wages which would be a far better deal for City. They are also still looking likely to lose Modric. Ledly King despite only playing a handful of games was still an excellent defender and there is no guarantee Vertongen can step up. I think we should aim to keep pace with them as a minimum albeit unsaid target

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Realistically there is only the two Manchester clubs we will struggle to overtake in fact we won't. But chelsea yes tough but not impossible, aresnal definately newcastle and everton and spurs I would regard it as a bad season not to finish above them. Yes there is some hope there but realistic hope and July is the time for high expectations not defeatism which the one place increment per season approach is. We had a very very poor manager last season yes it will take rodgers a while to bed in but you never know in football.


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We're better than Newcastle. Lowest is 7th, highest is 3rd.

How have we got as much chance of winning the league as finishing 4th?... I think/hope we'll finish 4th. I'll take 3-1 if anyone wants £50 on it.


Explain....


Sorry, I forgot here you have to begin with 'In my opinon...'.

In my opinion, we have a better first team than Newcastle. For starters, I don't think Ba will have as good season as the first half last year, I'm just glad we didn't pay £35m for him.
We had a bad season, they had a great season, it doesn't mean they've got a much better team and will continue to improve. Talk of Liverpool needing 'stablising' to prevent sliding down the table is daft too. If we finish 8th again, the season can be considered an epic fail.

It was a p*ss poor season in almost every way and I can't see as much going wrong. The 2nd half we just seemed to capitulate.

I'm not saying we have a great chance but the amount of pessimism on here is suprising.

How exactly is it 100% spot on to say we have zero chance of 4th or as much chance of winning the league?

Does anyone thing United have that much better team than us? Certainly not 47 points better. We can match any team on the day. If we improve home form and become more consistent against lower teams, 4th should be acheivable. Granted, BR will have to implement his ideas quickly, maybe I'm just a glass half full kind of guy....

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No your not its just some have knocked their glass over. We do have a chance of getting fourth. And its worth trying for in my opinion. Chelsea and Arsenal are the teams to beat what happened in league placings last two seasons means nothing.


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