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Brendan Rogers knows selling Carroll will free up funds, this for me is a clear indication that there is'nt much money in the Club and Brendan Rogers was brought in because he can work within a limited budget, it's impossible to reach the Champions League when you work within those restraints especialy when you look at the big four and there resources.

I remember reading this article at the time and thinking how it's going to be proved 100% correct :

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/i...ge-2173371.html

Interesting retrospective read. Seems like we've been saved from the worst (so far) by the current owners.

Our dip of the last few years seems to have been the result of a failure to invest in the stadium during the good times, and critically perhaps, an extremely short sighted though perhaps inncocent mistake by Moores and Parry to sell to H&G. Rafa had the club punching above it's weight for a few years I'd say, but couldn't continue - admittedly partly as a result of his own shortcomings.

Makes you wonder about the current situation though. Someone like Rafa would've given the owners a hard time. If he felt they weren't delivering on promises or trying to pull the wool over fans' eyes he would've gone public. Maybe that's why he wasn't considered.

Time will tell. Hopefully, BR is indeed the messiah.

Really? Rafa wanted control, no people interfering. Isn't that what Rodgers has? Why would Rafa complain, exactly? See, there's a great deal of hindsight that FSG can draw upon now, but if they chose to no consider Benitez out of fear of him then they were extremely short-sighted. If they want what is best for the club in terms of progress of the team, and if they were willing to support the manager in the transfer market, then Benitez would have been a far better appointment than Dalglish. But having essentially sacked the man, how could they suddenly admit they were wrong by hiring him now?

I'm sure they tell themselves that the division in the ranks of the fans would be enough to cause him to fail, that the lingering doubts in the minds of the members of the squad who saw the Alonso saga going down would poison any chance of him regaining control of the dressing room. But I'm not convinced...

That said, Rodgers represents a fresh start in a way that Benitez never could. That we will still play the Spanish way, with zonal marking and high pressing, and led by a manager fluent in the language, is mere coincidence. It simply remains to be seen whether Rodgers can have us over-perform season by season in the same way.

I believe I'm in total agreement with you. I meant Rafa would speak up publicly if owners promises of funds etc. didn't materialise. I think he would also have kept telling them that if they have serious ambitions of winning the title someday (which they claim) then they need to put some serious investment into the club (which I think they don't want to). Rafa did that with H&G and with that guy at Inter Milan. I reckon FSG feared that, and instead opted for the 'nice guy' type of manager in flirting with Martinez and ultimately chosing Rodgers.

I do think they were short-sighted or perhaps ill advised in not even talking to Rafa. Having said that, maybe there was just too much baggage and maybe it was too soon after his previous stint, overall too much risk. And as you say, BR does offer a clean slate/fresh start.

Theres a lot of negative rubbish being shipped on this site, surely some of us can remember finishing 8th before and the sky didn't fall in then. In the 62 -63 season we finished 8th and where did we finish the following season? Well for ye of little faith and shorter memories, we finished 1st...yes 1st. Then in 93 - 94 season we again finished 8th but the following season we finished 4th.

I for one don't accept any smart-ass attempt by any opportunistic owners to 'manage my expectations', thus letting themselves off the hook regarding necessary investment in the squad and/or my ambitions for this club. Whilst I believe we have a reasonably good squad of players, it's obvious to everyone that the rebuild from the carnage wrecked by the last opportunistic owners is far from complete and it is necessary to make substantial funds available to sign two or three top class players, so as to successfully challenge our competitors for top honours.

FSG must begin to realize they are dealing with a club and supporters who will not have their expectations managed and lowered for them, whether it be in relation to results and/or the stadium issue. I for one will not be happy to settle for anything less than a 4th place finish in the PL for one of the worlds top clubs this coming season, I wanted that last year, the year before and I damn well want it this year. So come on FSG get the finger out, put the money in or bloody-well get off the pitch. You bought this club for a song, relatively speaking, so the least ye can do is give us a fighting chance on the pitch, as well as with a decent stadium.

To those fans on this site I say, please stop putting us down and please stop settling for anything less than top 4 for our club, stand up and demand the results and investment this club deserves and settle for nothing less than at least a top 4 finish.

Excellent post annefield.

Having expectations is not naivety, it's what made LFC great in the first place.

Nobody is more negative than me(Well apart from Careex and longlane) but even I think we could get 4th spot. Not easy but it is a realistic target especially if Arsenal or chelsea slip up which they did last year but we were even worse

Good man Stan.

Where are we without hope, it's what keeps us going

"Without hope there is no life"

I made that up my first saying as a Philosopher