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The most accurate passes in Europe 2011-2012;
1.Leon Britton
2.Xavi
3.John Terry
4.Sergio Busquets
5.Thiago Silva
6.Joe Allen
7.Mikel Arteta
8.Yaya Toure
9.Scott Parker
Bar the two Swansea players who were managed by Brendan Rogers (which just shows you what an incredible achievement being in that list is), all the players in that list either finished in the top four last season or are regular top four players. Now, try to tell me that's just coincidence.
There's probably a million reasons why City aren't spending £30million on Joe Allen, the first is probably that his buy out clause is £15million. Well done for managing to reiterate ur point with a list. But it still doesn't mean anything as its exactly the same point as you made before. And it was wrong then. Why aren't any top 4 clubs in for him? Because he hasn't demonstrated all the attributes for a top 4 player. It is a considerable achievement, that's obvious. But it doesn't make you a top 4 player. Again, think.
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The most accurate passes in Europe 2011-2012;
1.Leon Britton
2.Xavi
3.John Terry
4.Sergio Busquets
5.Thiago Silva
6.Joe Allen
7.Mikel Arteta
8.Yaya Toure
9.Scott Parker
Bar the two Swansea players who were managed by Brendan Rogers (which just shows you what an incredible achievement being in that list is), all the players in that list either finished in the top four last season or are regular top four players. Now, try to tell me that's just coincidence.
There's probably a million reasons why City aren't spending £30million on Joe Allen, the first is probably that his buy out clause is £15million. Well done for managing to reiterate ur point with a list. But it still doesn't mean anything as its exactly the same point as you made before. And it was wrong then. Why aren't any top 4 clubs in for him? Because he hasn't demonstrated all the attributes for a top 4 player. It is a considerable achievement, that's obvious. But it doesn't make you a top 4 player. Again, think. And you've managed to prove your point with err what exactly? How do you know that no top four club is in for him? And I'll tell you what, if you maintain top four form (which that clearly is) then it wont be long before a top for team does come in for you. You're 'point' that you're not good enough to be a top four player until a top four club comes in for you is ridiculous. That list shows he is capable of producing form to rival top four players from all over Europe, which proves more than what you've said. Asking why City haven't paid £30million for him proves what exactly? Maybe you should 'think' about how to prove a point before trying to make one. By the way, I'm not trying to prove he is a top four player, just that he has achieved a standard that rivals top four players.
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And you've managed to prove your point with err what exactly? How do you know that no top four club is in for him? And I'll tell you what, if you maintain top four form (which that clearly is) then it wont be long before a top for team does come in for you. You're 'point' that you're not good enough to be a top four player until a top four club comes in for you is ridiculous. That list shows he is capable of producing form to rival top four players from all over Europe, which proves more than what you've said. Asking why City haven't paid £30million for him proves what exactly?
Maybe you should 'think' about how to prove a point before trying to make one.
By the way, I'm not trying to prove he is a top four player, just that he has achieved a standard that rivals top four players.
You've said it yourself, with those stats he has shown he might be capable. Not that he is a top 4 player. You proved my point for me  Shame you didn't take my advice and think before you typed.
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The most accurate passes in Europe 2011-2012;
1.Leon Britton
2.Xavi
3.John Terry
4.Sergio Busquets
5.Thiago Silva
6.Joe Allen
7.Mikel Arteta
8.Yaya Toure
9.Scott Parker
Bar the two Swansea players who were managed by Brendan Rogers (which just shows you what an incredible achievement being in that list is), all the players in that list either finished in the top four last season or are regular top four players. Now, try to tell me that's just coincidence.
There's probably a million reasons why City aren't spending £30million on Joe Allen, the first is probably that his buy out clause is £15million. You think passing accuracy is the only thing champions league clubs look for? Are you having a joke or just being silly? Passing accuracy is one attribute. It is OBVIOUSLY clear Allen hasn't shown all the attributes to be considered top 4 YET. You have no leg to stand on apart from passing accuracy which isn't remotely enough. And that last point makes you look pathetic or stupid, as he was obviously making an exaggeration about top clubs aren't in for him. Taking it literally means it went over your head when it was very simple, or you took it literally because you know you have no argument and your beaten i.e. pathetic.
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Why don't you try reading? I'm not trying to prove my own point or disprove yours. The fact is that he has achieved a standard which is (and this is the key word coming up, dictionary.com if you're not sure) comparable with some world class players.
Now, if Brendan Rogers is certain that Joe Allen can become a top four player (and lets face it, he knows the player better than either of us), why would we wait for teams like City to come in with a £30million bid? You're trying to say that he isn't good enough because the top four aren't in for him and that is just absurd. We aren't a top four team anymore and can't afford to wait for players to become world beaters before we go in for them.
Now I think it's time for you to take your own advice and try to think about what exactly your point, the one your convinced I've made for you, actually is.
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By the way, I'm not trying to prove he is a top four player, just that he has achieved a standard that rivals top four players.
In one field!!! That isn't all round standards! You are already backtracking from your original post! He said he isn't a top 4 player, and Allen isn't. One attribute does not make him top 4 class. It makes that one attribute top 4 level. Obvious! 
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Why don't you try reading? I'm not trying to prove my own point or disprove yours. The fact is that he has achieved a standard which is (and this is the key word coming up, dictionary.com if you're not sure) comparable with some world class players.
Now, if Brendan Rogers is certain that Joe Allen can become a top four player (and lets face it, he knows the player better than either of us), why would we wait for teams like City to come in with a £30million bid? You're trying to say that he isn't good enough because the top four aren't in for him and that is just absurd. We aren't a top four team anymore and can't afford to wait for players to become world beaters before we go in for them.
Now I think it's time for you to take your own advice and try to think about what exactly your point, the one your convinced I've made for you, actually is. Maybe you should try reading what you actually wrote. Any player who can play 36 games a season and achieve 90.3% pass accuracy is better than a 6th place player. No mention of 'comparable' in there matey boy. Like someone else just mentioned and showed you up with, one of his skills is COMPARABLE with top 4. I have no argument or debate with that. But that's not what you said. You really should have had a THINK and read what you started with cause now you just look silly haha. I've never debated that his passing accuracy isn't comparable with top 4 class players. But you said, and here it is for you again Any player who can play 36 games a season and achieve 90.3% pass accuracy is better than a 6th place player. When no it isn't. That one skill is better than 6th place players passing accuracy. But passing accuracy doesn't make a player. Now maybe you meant that one facet of him is comparable, and if you took my advice and had a THINK, then you would have realised the error you made in your original post
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By the way, I'm not trying to prove he is a top four player, just that he has achieved a standard that rivals top four players.
In one field!!! That isn't all round standards! You are already backtracking from your original post! He said he isn't a top 4 player, and Allen isn't. One attribute does not make him top 4 class. It makes that one attribute top 4 level. Obvious! Didn't even need to post my last point! You got him bang to rights yourself mate! haha
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The most accurate passes in Europe 2011-2012;
1.Leon Britton
2.Xavi
3.John Terry
4.Sergio Busquets
5.Thiago Silva
6.Joe Allen
7.Mikel Arteta
8.Yaya Toure
9.Scott Parker
Bar the two Swansea players who were managed by Brendan Rogers (which just shows you what an incredible achievement being in that list is), all the players in that list either finished in the top four last season or are regular top four players. Now, try to tell me that's just coincidence.
There's probably a million reasons why City aren't spending £30million on Joe Allen, the first is probably that his buy out clause is £15million. You think passing accuracy is the only thing champions league clubs look for? Are you having a joke or just being silly? Passing accuracy is one attribute. It is OBVIOUSLY clear Allen hasn't shown all the attributes to be considered top 4 YET. You have no leg to stand on apart from passing accuracy which isn't remotely enough. And that last point makes you look pathetic or stupid, as he was obviously making an exaggeration about top clubs aren't in for him. Taking it literally means it went over your head when it was very simple, or you took it literally because you know you have no argument and your beaten i.e. pathetic. What, are you his girlfriend or something? I showed that those stats prove he's comparable to world class players in one attribute alone. I'm not trying to prove he is a top four player and if that's how you've taken it then I'm afraid it's you who is 'pathetic or stupid'. And there's no need to be offensive. Now the only 'point' he managed to muster was that no top four club is after him, whether 'he was obviously making an exaggeration', why shouldn't I pick that apart? It's just silly.
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