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Yep, I got hounded for saying these owners are no good, they didn't back Kenny in January when the side needed freshening up. I don't want to straight label them yet, but at the moment, my feelings for them are sinking almost by the day. The honeymoon period is most certainly over, yet they keep talking about top 4 but are not willing to invest anymore money into the side to get it ASAP. NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!! 
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For all the "we are million miles away from top 4 let alone title" fans, can you explain how Dalglish, of all people, brought our club from relegation zone back, with a 2nd half record that's good enough for 2nd place?
My take is we over achieved during that period under KK, and we underachieved last season. A good manager plus a couple good buys (and goodbyes too) can see us in the thick of running for the 4th spot sooner than some of you may think.
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For all the "we are million miles away from top 4 let alone title" fans, can you explain how Dalglish, of all people, brought our club from relegation zone back, with a 2nd half record that's good enough for 2nd place?
My take is we over achieved during that period under KK, and we underachieved last season. A good manager plus a couple good buys (and goodbyes too) can see us in the thick of running for the 4th spot sooner than some of you may think. Will require some exceptionally good buys that at the moment we aren't even being linked with.
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I agree, it's laughable. We're a million miles away from 4th spot. I would say a mathematical impossibility. We have average players, owers without a clue, an inexperienced manager, gerrard's too old, Suarez is a racist and needs to go & we're the 8th best team in the league.
God my life's empty.
I blame Rafa. Rafa overachieved. He'd get us back in the Top 4. FACT! Oh my god Fazarkerleys "leader" what are you saying?...he`ll get his best mate Alonso to do you in!
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Carexx I think John Henry is much more savvy in the premier league than when he first took over which was also very hands off. He knows what he is doing now I feel and he is also more hands on. We are told what an expert he is on sports franchises well as far as I am concerned the clock starts now. I'd like to think so Stanley, but there's no evidence to say he is much more savvy. Last season was a disaster for which Henry and Werner were partly responsible for whatever reason. Even the appointment of BR, whilst it may prove to be a good choice in the end, was arrived at in a manner which arguably demonstrated confused thinking. We have a tough start to the season. If we don't start well and depending on how the rest of the transer window pans out (I fear Skrtle and Agger may well go at the last minute) the natives may start to turn on their colonial masters.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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I think every knowledgeable fan knows this already, we are far away from the top 4 let alone the league, last season showed this. BR's target is top 4 but in the long run, not needed next season.
Back to Back World Champions baby!
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4 places is a million miles? A mathematical impossibility? I don't understand this thinking. I don't know if we'll get top 4, probably not, but I do think we'll be top 6, and I do think we'll be challenging for 4th.
Where were we around xmas time last year? 5th or 6th? Not too many points off 4th. And that was with Dalglish, who is not the best. And despite a complete collapse in the second half of the season, we still managed to get 8th and two cup finals, winning one.
Now this season, presumably Rodgers is a better manager. So we can be up there and competing, particularly if he improves the squad. Perhaps this time we won't collapse, and we'll finish stronger in the second half of the season. A lot depends on other teams of course, but if you think that it's a mathematical impossibility, you need to go back and get a refund from your maths teacher. We need to accept Chelsea and Arsenal will no way be as disasterous as they were last season, they will be different and more like the Chelsea and Arsenal we all know. The most disapointing thing about last season was we will never ever have a better chance of getting around the top four, as I said Arsenal and Chelsea for much of the season were out of sorts and we were going into the season after spending about 110 milion pound in a little over 12 months, thats why I say if we could'nt manage it last season there is no hope ever.
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you can't be sure ford what will happen something always surprises. The main thing is for us to be on our game and then worry how the others do.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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4 places is a million miles? A mathematical impossibility? I don't understand this thinking. I don't know if we'll get top 4, probably not, but I do think we'll be top 6, and I do think we'll be challenging for 4th.
Where were we around xmas time last year? 5th or 6th? Not too many points off 4th. And that was with Dalglish, who is not the best. And despite a complete collapse in the second half of the season, we still managed to get 8th and two cup finals, winning one.
Now this season, presumably Rodgers is a better manager. So we can be up there and competing, particularly if he improves the squad. Perhaps this time we won't collapse, and we'll finish stronger in the second half of the season. A lot depends on other teams of course, but if you think that it's a mathematical impossibility, you need to go back and get a refund from your maths teacher. We need to accept Chelsea and Arsenal will no way be as disasterous as they were last season, they will be different and more like the Chelsea and Arsenal we all know. The most disapointing thing about last season was we will never ever have a better chance of getting around the top four, as I said Arsenal and Chelsea for much of the season were out of sorts and we were going into the season after spending about 110 milion pound in a little over 12 months, thats why I say if we could'nt manage it last season there is no hope ever. What makes you think that we won't go back to being the Liverpool we all know?
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4 places is a million miles? A mathematical impossibility? I don't understand this thinking. I don't know if we'll get top 4, probably not, but I do think we'll be top 6, and I do think we'll be challenging for 4th.
Where were we around xmas time last year? 5th or 6th? Not too many points off 4th. And that was with Dalglish, who is not the best. And despite a complete collapse in the second half of the season, we still managed to get 8th and two cup finals, winning one.
Now this season, presumably Rodgers is a better manager. So we can be up there and competing, particularly if he improves the squad. Perhaps this time we won't collapse, and we'll finish stronger in the second half of the season. A lot depends on other teams of course, but if you think that it's a mathematical impossibility, you need to go back and get a refund from your maths teacher. We need to accept Chelsea and Arsenal will no way be as disasterous as they were last season, they will be different and more like the Chelsea and Arsenal we all know. The most disapointing thing about last season was we will never ever have a better chance of getting around the top four, as I said Arsenal and Chelsea for much of the season were out of sorts and we were going into the season after spending about 110 milion pound in a little over 12 months, thats why I say if we could'nt manage it last season there is no hope ever. Agree with most of it except the final conclusion. There is always a chance but it requires one or more of the following: - Heavy investment in proven quality. We invested heavily last season but not in top drawer quality. - A top coach who'll squeeze the best out of what he's got. Rafa did that, but once we got it we wanted more. Some of us turned against him for failing to deliver the title, or for the style of football, or the constant headaches in fights with the owners/palyers etc. - We unearth a few top quality diamond players either through the acadamey or purchaese that become sensations. like Gerrard, Alonso, Torres, Suarez. Is BR that top coach? Will he unearth those players? We're about to find out. What happens in the transfer window and the first few games of the season will be interesting.
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'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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