KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Andy Carroll was a dead man walking from the start.

(Just an opinion)As soon as Rodgers was appointed as manager, i knew this was bad news for Carroll. Rodgers main method of choice is 4-3-3 (we all know this), Fact Andy Carroll cannot play as an dynamic technical ST which is required, on the other hand Borini suits that bill and i think will replace Andy Carroll. Andy is a good man and i don't want him to be punished even more so next season, because he will be out of sorts in that formation.

he would be great to keep as a squad player, plan B and all that, but cant see him sticking around for a bit roll.

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That anything like a Swiss roll?

Agree completely with the thread.

If Darren Bent can go to Villa for 20+ I can't see why we can't get something similar for Andy Carroll (providing he doesn't fit into the gaffa's plans - all speculation at the moment)

He's only going to be a constant source of attention from the press that we quite frankly don't need - as long as he's at Liverpool and not banging them in / starting regularly then it's only going to create a negative effect.

I like AC and think he has a lot to offer, would absolutely love to see him come good at Anfield - but given the choice and the sittuation at the moment, I'd rather we sold him on for a fair price and reinvested the funds into a player who will become an integral part of the team.

I still think he has a lot to offer, we've seen signs of the player we hoped he would be in the last few months and I'm sure he will only get better.

Sometimes to unlock a door you need a lock-pick and sometimes you need a battering ram.

Putting all our eggs in one basket can't be a good idea. I really hope he stays and fights for his place.

Probelem is though, the way we're going about things we're probably encouraging silly bids and offers nowhere near £20million plus. We're giving people the impression that they can come and get a bargain.

My view is that the manager needs to be clever even if he doesn't fit into his ideal plans. Build him up, give him confidence and a chance, let him get some fantastic goals or perfromances under his belt like his cup semi final/final and Euro 2102 games. If we could rebuild his values to £20/£25 milion then fine.

The other thing is, we've seen in the past that we need something different or direct against teams like stoke. I really thing BR should be trying to keep AC and prove himself a coach who can change the team's style to suit needs. On cold winter nights with boggy or frozen pitches the slow passing game might not work.

never liked swiss roll much.

Ok, everyone says that Rodgers plays tiki-taka, but that's not quite accurate. It is based on a lot of the philosophy, but I think it's more similar to the Dutch Total Football. I saw Sinclair put in a couple of fine crosses last season, and I think that nearly any set up could use a hammer like Carroll. I don't think we can say that we all KNOW that BR doesn't want him until he leaves (if he does). Let's just see.

Hope so. that would be great.

It's just that his press interviews have allowed the specualation. I'd love it for BR and LFC to support the young lad and turn things around for him in a way that suits the club too.

Can you just imaging what a successful AC would do for mrale at the club? A young, England center forward purchased at £35 million and proved to be succesful. Would be just fantastic for the club all round.

You make some pretty decent points and I'm a little concerned about the money he might go for too. I think our best option would be to engineer a player swap + cash type deal - as there are plenty of teams out there who would love to sign him, but very very few who would stump up the 20 mil, give or take.

If we could, for instance, make a deal with Fulham for Dempsey involving Carroll going the other way - with Fulham sweetening the deal with something like 12 mil, then I'd be reasonably happy. Fulham (or another team of the like - who has a player we're interested in) could surely find 12 mil, where 20+ would be out of the question.

I'm hearing you about needing a plan B when.... well, when plan A isn't working Against the likes of Stoke ect.. but I had to laugh about the wintery "boggy pitches where the passing game might not work" When was the last time you saw a boggy pitch in the premier???
The days of the old first division are long gone - they're damn near bowling greens year round these days!!!!