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i think your wrong and we are beginning to see fruit with players coming through

remember we have the bloke in charge who helped develop Barcelona's system

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I havent seen Cryuff around?

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Originally Posted By: cjkent
i think your wrong and we are beginning to see fruit with players coming through

remember we have the bloke in charge who helped develop Barcelona's system


Who is coming through under the NEW system that wasn't just nicked from other youth systems 2 or less years ago?

Also he worked in Barca's youth system. He didn't develop it. It was developed before he was even there.

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Look we were crap when Houllier were here but super in the cups. Rafa took us a little further and lost the plot. Selling Arbeloa and Alonso is still hurting us.

Old numnuts without an idea since or for 50 years brought us down with his clowns and Kenny picked us up a little untill he signed the likes of Adam, Henderson, Downing and whats his face.

Now we ain't that bad as that 8th place finish suggests. But ffs we need time or at least Buck Rogers does to steady the ship some more and build on the structures. We have some awesome talent in the reserves and we might still be able to attract decent talent.

Hopefully we won't spend bucketloads on players like Borini and Dempsey. Who knows they might be smoke screens for really exciting targets. But fvck I don't wanna day dream about a possible fvck up.

Realistically we should be better at the end of this new season. I'd be ok with a fifth place finish if we steadily improve during the season and if BR is given support.

It just won't feel right if Liverpool won titles with the modern day mercenary type football stars. We better than that.

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Brenden Rodgers quotes after his first full week of training with most of the squad.

[Everyone knows] the club and where it was at over the years, but we have to ask, will any club ever do that again? That’s a big question.” Rodgers told reporters.

“We have to recognise the challenge is immense - let’s be under no illusion about that.”

Whilst the Northern Irishman insists the Merseyside outfit can eventually bring back the glory days, he revealed uncertainty over whether he would be in charge when that happens.

“I genuinely think a club of our status and value to the football world, we can go again. But it’s going to take time, and whether it will be in my time, I’m not so sure," he added.

“One thing I can assure the fans though, I’m going to fight for my life – to try to get this model of play that hopefully can change the history of the club.”

I think we (myself included) are guilty of thinking our squad is way better than 8th place, when in fact. It might not be.


Our squad is much better than 8th. If we had Fergie or Wenger, we'd be in the top 4 every year. It's fine he doesn't want to over-promise, but all we have to do is improve every year, concentrte on developing the best youth players in the world , and we'll get there.


We aren't even close to doing that yet. That is years and years away and most likely will never happen. There is this myth that Liverpool suddenly have an incredible youth system. We don't. It isn't even the best in the PL, nor the second or 3rd best. We are going to have to wait years before we even begin to see if it's actually any good after all these changes.


I didn't say we had, I said we need to concentrate on making it so. Anyway, how do you know we don't? How do you know it isn't the best in the PL, nor 2nd or 3rd best?


1. I didn't say that you had. I addressed your point and the myth that we have this amazing youth system, but it was at the same time so I can understand the confusion.

2. Because it isn't churning out first team ready players of the quality that other teams are. You can only judge a youth system on what it's producing currently. I can't tell you what players we are gonna have or not gonna have in 5 years time can I? I can only go on what we are seeing right now.

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Sterling was bought from QPR at 14/15 I think so I don't know if he counts but I do think our academy is looking promising

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academy is looking good and players are coming through

plus we are adding talent in the youth ranks

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i wouldn't say it the best but i think its improve each year

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Rafa set the wheels in motion with regards to improving the youth set up. That was never going to produce results overnight. We're finally starting to see the fruits of that coming through. Hopefully we can see some of those promising youngsters pushing on this year and knocking harder on the first team door. As Brendan Rodgers has said - if they're good enough, they're old enough.


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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Well recently we've seen Sterling who looks promising, Spearing who is rubbish, Flanagan is a bit shakey, Kelly looks excellent, Robinson looks promising to me. That's not too bad. All of these are through the system and not bought from other systems I believe. Which teams have better? man U? Arsenal?


Steling we bought in from QPR's academy and hasn't spent 2 full years at ours, he went into mellwood about a year and a half later.

Spearing and Flanagan aren't worth talking about atm.

Kelly looks good. Very good. Not excellent but thats up to opinion. Kyle walker looks better and if it wasn't for age and injury apparently would have gone with england ahead of Kelly. So we have 1 player. Kelly. Who isn't even the best right back coming through at the moment. That isn't much.

Man Utd, Arsenal, Spurs (by a small margin) all are currently producing better talent.

The smaller clubs are churning out good PL quality players, maybe not top 6 quality but still players that are making it in the PL. We are barely even doing that.

Like I said it will be at least 2 years before we can know how good our work in the academy being done right now is, but you can only judge an academy on its results, so right now its average.

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