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My point was that he was English and that there is a premium on English players. You chose to ignore that by talking about foreign players or players bought from the championship with no international experience.

We are all aware that we overpaid for AC and that so far he has failed to live up to expectations but he is certainly worth more than the 6mil you have given him

He has shown glimpses of what he's capable of and has shown his "potential". Players are also bought at a young age at a premium based on their "potential".

Don't be so arrogant by claiming you are right on everything when you're not, it makes you look foolish

You're not Maxi88 - so you're wrong again! :-)

nobody is wrong in this forum mate

people have opinions and they stick them them as long as don't blatantly wind people up

You can voice your views but don't expect people to agree with them

Anyone would think the man didn't improve at all. Neither did his output.

Complete and utter total deluded blind rubbish. Absolute crap.

He was by far our best player in many games at the end of the season. By far. His work rate was more than his team mates, he came on in the FA Cup final, a game where he was ignored by the manager (when many believe he should of started after his form) and tried his best to turn the game, which he did, had his header been given a goal, he would have scored 2 and turned the game almost on his own, after a pathetic game from the rest of his team.

Time and time again he was more than just a striker towards the end of the season, and the game straight after the FA Cup final, conveniently against Chelsea again, who we absolutely battered, he showed yet again he should have started that final.

I just aint having it. If you dont think at all, that Andy Carroll was one of our best players for about 5 or 6 games at the end of the season. Then you need to go and support another team, because he obviously was one of, if not the.

I believe that a players value can only be based on what he has achieved. AC's goal scoring record is massively inferior to all those that I mentioned despite him costing more than them all put together. Your valuation of £15m is no more accurate than my valuation of £6m. In any market, a valuation is arrived at by a comparison with similar products/services. Whether that vaulation becomes the ctual seeling price is irrelevant as their are supply/demand issues to factor in - however, that doesn't apply in this case.
If you can supply some evidence to support your valuation of him then I'd love to see it. To put a figure of £15m on a player you need to justify it...

not according to carheex and he may say your wrong because he is right lol

I can understand some of the criticism towards certain players, but some of the criticism aimed at Andy Carroll, is complete and utter BS and it seems like its the "In thing" to do, because of the £35million tag he had f*ck all to do with.

I hope he stays and I hope more than anything next season, he makes the blind critics eat their own words every single game.

'Tw@', is the only kind of response the above comment in bold deserves.

AC was our best player in the cup final - but he was the best of a bad bunch
AC also played well in the followng game against chelsea - but they had bigger fish to fry.
I agree with you that he looked better for the last few months of the season - that is WHY i put him at £6m, otherwise you can half that. A handful of good games does not equate to a £15m valuation.

His goals:games ratio has gone downhill though. He scored 2 in 7 in his first 6 months, which dropped to 4 in 35 in the following 9 months. That is a factoid!

Me too. I hope he's voted european footballer of the year in 2013 and lifts the world cup for england in 2014. Don't mean it will happen though.