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Winning the European Cup, and then being runners up in a short space of time, suggests that while we may or may not have been the best at the time, we were among the very top clubs then.
I don't think you understand what mediocrity means. Where Porto one of the top sides not so long ago when they beat that other top side Monaco in the final, where Liverpool one of the top sides when we we won in Istanbul but finished 37 points behind Chelsea and also behind Everton, dont think so. I think just because you win a Champions League or do well in it does'nt automaticaly mean you are a top side, just look at Schalke the other season getting to the semi, sadly we have never been a top club for over 20 years now which makes it even more baffling where people get there outrageous expectation levels from. Yes Porto under Mourinho were a top side. Yes us under benitez were a top side. But even if you disagree, you'd have to completely misunderstand the word to say that Porto under Mourinho or us in that time were 'mediocre'. I cant accept Liverpool were a top side when we won the Champions League in Istanbul, no way not ever, I seen enough of them that season to know we were awful, Alan Hansen said 4 months before the match in Istanbul when we got beat away at Southampton by two Peter Crouch goals that this is the worst Liverpool team in living memory and I happen to agree even though Hansen is not reliable. People forget, we lost about 15 league games that season and for me we are still the worst team ever to win the Champions League, not saying we never deserved to get there but we were awful we lost 5 games during the road there. Thats why its called the miracle of istanbul, not only were we not a good side , we were completely crap for most of the season and yes for most of the champs league campaign. it still baffles belief.
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Faz is obsessed with Rafa, he is probably the only one that has been talking about him since Kenny was sacked, its really annoying reading his repetitive threads. The fans are divided on Brendan and rightly so, everyone has their opinion, patience is needed but if are still sitting 6th 2 years from now I can tell you we will have a new manager again.
Back to Back World Champions baby!
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fans can be divided if they want that's up to them
Some on here make me laugh talking about accepting mediocre and going to have a bad season etc
We haven't even played one pre-season game for gods sake so how do we know we going to do that bad. I feel that some just want Rodgers to fail just so they can shout out i told you so
Its just sad
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he was not even on my preferred candidates list.Regardless I have now accepted mediocracy so care not what rodgers does,unless we get some rich arabs in soon im not expecting anything.Maybe you could blame Benitez for that too? about time you excepted mediocrity because liverpool have been mediocre for many many years , but its like of you who are not willing to give rogers a chance who hold the club back . I agree give BR a chance. He might be amazing for us who knows. But it isnt fans thinking hes a bad appointment holding the club back. That's a ridiculous statement. It is poor transfer window after poor transfer window the worst being under Kenny.
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I don't think fans holding the club back at all
But its just sad they are so negative you wonder if they know the term supporter lol
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fans can be divided if they want that's up to them
Some on here make me laugh talking about accepting mediocre and going to have a bad season etc
We haven't even played one pre-season game for gods sake so how do we know we going to do that bad. I feel that some just want Rodgers to fail just so they can shout out i told you so
Its just sad It's a very strange forum, I wonder if other teams forums are like this. I've just read several posts stating how crap a team we had when we won the Champions League... only on this forum. Likewise the strange hatred toward Rafa, some real discrimination there. Most of it comes from a few posters and it's the usual '8th best team in England... everyone's obsessed with Rafa but me...' I'm 100% sure several people here would love to see us do worse this season. There'll always be a section of supporters not happy with buys/sales/managers etc... but everyone should want BR to succeed and he's got a great chance, especially of just improving on last season. To be fair, I don't think he reads Koptalk so it's probably not holding the club back too much.
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LOL at this thread. Patience? Well, we're gonna be left soooo far behind, it'll take us 10 years to get back into the top 4 with this manager. Collateral damage this appointment. Mediocre manager breeds mediocre players breeds mediocre football breeds a mediocre club. If he isn't in top 4 at December he's a goner and if he loses the first 5 games (perfectly conceivable with our fixtures) he needs to be sacked.
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If the manager is provided with adequate transfer funds and fans see an improvement in the quality of play then they will be paitence. The players last season have underperformed (bar a couple) and if they cannot improve then they have to be flogged. My worry is that I cannot see FSG giving the manager a decent transfer budget and that will cause problems
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