KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Just how bad would the PL be.....

....without non British players?

After watching several of the games this last couple of weeks, it's made me realise just how little home grown talent we really have.

i dont know growls, i look at that england side year in and year out and i just cant understand how they dont play better as an international team. its weird.

the PL has become to best league in the world, no question, so all the bi names come, but the home grown players are in the mix their so i think its a testiment to what england has to offer.

So then. We have the players, but we just can't get them to play like the Spaniards do?
WHY?

England were 7th of the Quarter Finalists when it came to possession.

That means they spent longer chasing the ball, exerting more energy and eventually dropping deeper and deeper.

Until the English national team learn how to retain possession they will continue to be heroic failures.

its the coaching culture. spain has under 21's that all play like xavi and iniesta and all play to make the team win. englands under 21 star is jordan bloody henderson who can't pass the ball 2 yards. then we get all obsessed about 1 player gazza ,becks,rooney and he is the hero - leader, they all fail as individuals when its the team that should come first. keep the ball england

actually i bet if spain under 21 played our senior team they would still own the ball

it think the foreign players in the pl make our English players look good

I'm pretty damned sure you are absolutely correct.
As a foorie fanatical nation, out home produce is pretty damned avarage, and I can't see it changing any time soon either sadly.

At the momens it would be rubbish. We're going through what the Germans went through and have to take similar action to them. But we won't as the EPL is too rich and won't work with the FA.

Lots of people say the EPL is the best league in the world but it's not. It's the richest maybe but far from the best. The standard of football is poor as has been shown by the European campaigns from this year. Look at what Athletic did to the scum and that's an eighth place Spanish team. Yes Chelsea won the champions league but they won it by not playing. The best players don't come here either. Ronaldo left, Alonso left, Fabregas left, Messi will never come, all of Man City's money couldn't tempt Kaka etc.

Until the EPL and FA get together and sort out youth and reserve football and stop clubs being able to buy second rate foreigners instead of using young British players, we'll continue to gall behind.

I've no idea of the coaching setup in England but the football style is similar to Ireland in that power and not conceding goals is the order of the day and there is no huge desire to dominate possession a la Spain. This is what has to change in both countries to produce modern footballers comfortable on the ball.

Hey.

In the case of British football players, there are of course players with high quality. However, the amount of players with high quality is low. If you look at other countries, they have a higher skill level of their players.

Do not know if the following applies for UK players, but is a fitting description of the players in my home country Norway. Norwegian players are always praised if they work hard on the football field, focus on ball skills are lacking. Players who have good skills are often overlooked. In Norway, the man begins to play 11 men on the pitch when they are about 11-12 years. In my opinion, this is perhaps too early. 7 men on a small path is a necessity if the players will learn the technique and ball skills. There is a tendency for players roses if they just turn long balls on big courts to fast strikers. LONG BALL focus.

In other countries in Europe cultivated the skills of the players first. Tactics and play on big courts learned when they get older. Of course, it is important to have the work ethic and teamwork, but those players who do not have this as basic along with techniques often fall early on.

This is as I said just a thought, I draw some parallels in the UK and Norwegian soccer football. Maybe this is part of the reason that England fail to reach all the way up to international football.