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too right Rafa, deffo not on the one guy


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Originally Posted By: bigredkop
He is okay, young, was talented in a side that didn't have any (even close to) world class players. Will he make the step up? Who knows. But at 6.5 he was easily worth a shout. At 10 million? Well maybe we should be adding that to the kitty for a proper top player.


I'm not quite sure what your point is? If he played as well as he did with average players around him, surely he'd play even better with top class players around him, wouldn't he? To put it another way, from what I've seen of him he's worth 10 of jordan henderson but at half the cost.

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2 cent worth .....yes he is (would have been) a good addition but imo we're well served in the middle already. Remember our problems are still those which haunted us when we were dominating teams and not scoring...we need a quality winger + a goal machine (berbatov)

If we can have just 1 player this summer it has to be a goal getter most teams have 4 strikers we've one lad who on his day is unplayable but we've only seen that twice since he arrived and one lad who can be a genius or jester.
Either. way that's 2 ....we need at least 1 if not 2 more up front

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Fair enough raf, about wingers but def need more poachers

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Originally Posted By: SamMaguire
2 cent worth .....yes he is (would have been) a good addition but imo we're well served in the middle already. Remember our problems are still those which haunted us when we were dominating teams and not scoring.

can't agree with that. yes, we have a LOT of midfielders but they are all (except Gerrard, Lucas, & Aquaman) crap. Spearing, Henderson, & Adam shouldn't be anywhere near our first team. Shelvey is ok but he won't get us into the top 4. He's not that player..yet. Cole is out of shape, Gerrard is injury prone and not getting any younger, Lucas is coming back from a horrific injury, and Aquaman will most likely be sold. So even though we have a lot of names only 3 are worthy of the shirt. Therefore, I believe we most definitely need a quality attacking midfielder. I would also like a strong defensive midfielder while we're at it to cover Lucas.

Originally Posted By: SamMaguire

If we can have just 1 player this summer it has to be a goal getter most teams have 4 strikers we've one lad who on his day is unplayable but we've only seen that twice since he arrived and one lad who can be a genius or jester.
Either. way that's 2 ....we need at least 1 if not 2 more up front

agreed.

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True solar those mids wont win the epl, but they did dominate a lot of teams last year. Goals let us down

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Originally Posted By: SamMaguire
True solar those mids wont win the epl, but they did dominate a lot of teams last year. Goals let us down

my memory isn't the best but the only domination i recall was when lucas was fit and he was currently one of the best midfielders in the league. once he went out it showed how weak the rest of our midfield was and we were getting ran over by the 7 teams above us. (Lucas out injured, Gerrard out injured, Aquaman out on loan). without those three we were pretty bad. Henderson, Spearing, & Adam? I don't expect to win the EPL, but we won't get top 4 with them which should be the goal. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong and I'm just being too negative.

and yes, goals definitely let us down.

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Still dont get the belief in aquaman. I hope he's either given a chance and proves me wrong or is sold but no messing around with him this year

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First of all, let's not all panic/act like we never wanted him anyway - we don't even know for sure who he's signing with yet.

Second, let's be honest with ourselves: Whether we end up signing him or not, he is a massive step up over Henderson, Adam, Shelvey, Aquaman, and Spearing. On current form, I'd put him right into the starting XI with Gerrard and Lucas. We have a lot of midfielders, so it probably wouldn't be the first place I'd strengthen, but if he's available for cheap, why not? We'll still have more than enough left in the piggy bank to sign a striker and some wingers.


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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Still dont get the belief in aquaman. I hope he's either given a chance and proves me wrong or is sold but no messing around with him this year

well he was pretty amazing in the few games he's played for us. but either way play him or sell him. i can't take this loaning out crap anymore.

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