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what if italy win the tornament?
Effectively if spain meet germany in final, all the other 50 odd teams had a bad euro2012? As they didn't get to final by beating teams better than themselves? bit harsh that.

England don't like to lose, they make up for technical definciency (see wayne rooney) by teamwork & commitment. Noone wants to lose on pens.

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Originally Posted By: Armitage
what if italy win the tornament?
Effectively if spain meet germany in final, all the other 50 odd teams had a bad euro2012? As they didn't get to final by beating teams better than themselves? bit harsh that.

England don't like to lose, they make up for technical definciency (see wayne rooney) by teamwork & commitment. Noone wants to lose on pens.


correction, the ashley brothers WANT to lose on pens.


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Ashley young = euros waste

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Bit out of order that. IF beckham golden balls had missed a pen it would have been bad luck, Ashley coles was awful true, but so what he had a good tournament

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Say Arm, which page are yer on


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WHAT //!! ROONEY??
Gifted?? Totaly disagree. His 'gift' depended on him being full of pace and strength and having good balance to bully his way in the premiership. IF if remember rightly ROONEY THE THATCHED ROOF LABOURERS ASSISTANT has been at 3 world cups, Goal tally ZERO IREPEAT ZERO . Now Gary Linekar that is a talented footballer.

ANDY CARROL is better on the ball than rooney, rooney is slightly better (but not much) at timing runs

PS ENgland under rh liked to win on penalties not lose on them

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aaah, we are back on the same page


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i have no issue with Rooney's talent just his effort or seem lack of when it comes to England

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RAfa, i didnt say andy carrol is more technically gifted than rooney, he has better control imo than rooney, especially in an england shirt, in fact i said he is better on the ball(carrol).


You said yourself 25 june ie yesterday that rooney isnt good enough i will quote the thread if you want!

As a centre forward he is far more useful for england than rooney. Rooneys first touch has been appalling htis tournament. No way can you be up there as one of hte most technically gifted players of the world if you cannot control the ball well. Rooney is flattered at manure he is in a team that is dominating opponents so he gets more space and time than other premiership players, I think he sucks technically.

The reason why he is pretty much past his best at 26 is his game is limited: and the big tournament failures just goes to show that his game is (was) based on pace and power and little else. His control has always let him down. At least we know AC is a bit of a donkey . The biggest fabrication ever by the british media is to say rooney is comparable to messi y. In the next few years i expect to see rooney getting a stack of red cards as he realises he is past it and never was really as good as the media said he was.

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