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Re: Gerrard what a servant
ianrush81 #240538 09/06/12 03:44 PM
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Steven gerrard for me mate is world class just because hes not won any league title does not mean hes not world class i dont think there would of been many players to do what he did in istanbul and the fa cup in cardiff the year after hes won everything else at club football level and has been pivatol to all those cup wins as for him leaving to win a title else where it would mean nothing to him personally because he wanted at lfc and thats why he stayed hes an absolute legend end of.
all about opinions, I just cant see how anyone can put him alongside players who have been it, seen it and done it especialy on more than one occasion, it's a bit like saying Gerrard is on the same level as Souness or Dalglish.


Do you think Messi is "world class"
Re: Gerrard what a servant
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i presume thats a wind up rushy mate steven gerrard is are best player ever including kd and souey they played with top class players and won everything there was to win SG has played with so many dross players over the last 13 years im suprised he stayed at all. I do agre it is about opinions thou mate but for me hes way above the likes of shearer as he couldnt of aspired to what stevies done basically on his own in many many games
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Even if Gerrard doesnt win anything more in the rest of his career he will go down as a world class player, players like Zidan, edgar Davids and Alonso wouldn't talk about him they way they do if he wasnt a great player,
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Steven gerrard for me mate is world class just because hes not won any league title does not mean hes not world class i dont think there would of been many players to do what he did in istanbul and the fa cup in cardiff the year after hes won everything else at club football level and has been pivatol to all those cup wins as for him leaving to win a title else where it would mean nothing to him personally because he wanted at lfc and thats why he stayed hes an absolute legend end of.
all about opinions, I just cant see how anyone can put him alongside players who have been it, seen it and done it especialy on more than one occasion, it's a bit like saying Gerrard is on the same level as Souness or Dalglish.


Do you think Messi is "world class"
with about 3 Champions Leagues and about 5 Spanish League titles I think Messi qualifies as being World Class and not just winning them but being special in them too, do you.
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yes of course kane hes probably the most gifted footballer of our generation but whats that got to do with SG
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ianrush81 #240544 09/06/12 03:57 PM
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once again rushy messi plays with world class players if he came to us playin along side say henderson and downing would he be as effective i have grave doubts
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ianrush81 #240547 09/06/12 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: ianrush81
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Originally Posted By: REDROLO67
Steven gerrard for me mate is world class just because hes not won any league title does not mean hes not world class i dont think there would of been many players to do what he did in istanbul and the fa cup in cardiff the year after hes won everything else at club football level and has been pivatol to all those cup wins as for him leaving to win a title else where it would mean nothing to him personally because he wanted at lfc and thats why he stayed hes an absolute legend end of.
all about opinions, I just cant see how anyone can put him alongside players who have been it, seen it and done it especialy on more than one occasion, it's a bit like saying Gerrard is on the same level as Souness or Dalglish.


Do you think Messi is "world class"
with about 3 Champions Leagues and about 5 Spanish League titles I think Messi qualifies as being World Class and not just winning them but being special in them too, do you.


I wouldn't call Messi world class,fantastic player yes,but can he carry his national team like Maradona or Zidane? Often goes missing at international level ,same can be said for Gerrard.
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once again rushy messi plays with world class players if he came to us playin along side say henderson and downing would he be as effective i have grave doubts
Well I look on that from the other point of view, because Gerrard plays with rubbish he stands out more, if he played in the great Liverpool teams of the past he would stick out as much, if you put Messi in the Wolves team he would look the best player ever to play the game when you put him next to some of the rubbish they had playing for them.
Re: Gerrard what a servant
Kane #240557 09/06/12 04:19 PM
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why is it that if a player hasnt won the world cup or the euros or hes not been brilliant for his country hes not regarded as world class these tournaments come round every few years surely they should be judged by the footy they play week in week out for the clubs they play for does this then mean that KD was not world class because he won nothing with scotland or giggs won nothing with wales does this not make them world class because in my eyes they were defo
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ianrush81 #240567 09/06/12 04:26 PM
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ok i take that point but will ask you would you say SG was or is a world class player and if no why
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