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One of the best (if not the best post) I have ever read on this forum


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yep totally agree

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Originally Posted By: cp1972
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Carra's game has waned but a smart coach will get more out of him. Funny how everyone has written him off... that should be incentive enough for another good season.


I agree with this. Yes he's past his best and i wouldn't want him to be first choice but he's still a great back up option to cover injuries and is still far better than Coates at this point. Talk of him being selfish and needing to leave for the good of the club is twaddle. It was exactly the same with Hyypia when a lot of people in here turned on him but a season later and everyone was lauding the experience he brought to the team in times of need. It's nearly as funny as wanting to take the captaincy off the 'fading' Gerrard and giving it to Lucas.


under Paisley Carra would have been put to grass along time ago. Not because he is a bad player but because his best days are behind him and the bench should contain hunger and youth. Its sentimentality that has cost Liverpool in the last 22+yrs and it also goes for Gerrard who lets be honest has not played well or consistently for two seasons. Paisley always cashed in before a player went stale - Clemence, Thompson, Smith, Case, Lee were all moved in just after their prime. Rodgers could do no worse than put his faith in the Coates,Shelvey's and Hendersons because when they play without Carra/Gerrard their performances have been far better than with them.

Harsh but even Fergie has done it, Ince,Stam,Kanchelskis,Beckham, Van Nistelroy were all moved on whilst still having years to play yet each time a hungrier player has replaced them. Time we did the same, Personally I wouldn't have anyone above 30 in the squad(maybe a keeper)


I don't necessarily disagree with what your saying but the difference is that Fergie has always replaced quality with quality, we aren't in a position to do that at the moment. I dont mean that in relation to Carragher but certainly with Gerrard who i think will continue to have a huge and positive influence on the team for a good couple of seasons yet.

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also a fair point but have Carra or Gerrard been 'quality' in the last two even three seasons? It was their poor performances (as well as others)which have contributed to 3 managers losing their jobs at Liverpool.

It's like England and this golden generation thing, 3 highly succesful managers have been blamed for basically overated players not performing. I would if I were BR seriously think about limiting their playing time and therefore reducing their influence going forward. They must only ever be cogs in the bigger machine.

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Carra is done at the top level, very marginal even just for the bench. Sad but true.

Gerrard doesn't have the legs for box to box MF every game anymore, but he's still quality (compare to the rest of the squad). He can still contribute a lot if used smartly. Even Fergie still utilized Giggs and Scholes, who are both a few years older than Gerrard.

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