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Joe Cole wasn't good enough a year ago, he is now off the pace as he's been playing in an inferior league where he played nothing more than okay. If we keep him, don't expect much. Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa, Jelavic all came from inferior leagues and havent struggled too much.
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+1. I think he still has it. If he comes in and does a job for us, I'll be thrilled.
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Joe Cole wasn't good enough a year ago, he is now off the pace as he's been playing in an inferior league where he played nothing more than okay. If we keep him, don't expect much. Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa, Jelavic all came from inferior leagues and havent struggled too much. Pointless argument. Many more people can't make the step up from inferior leagues to this one. Naming a few that have is just using up some letters. Most cannot. And my point which seems to have gone over your head is that if he wasn't good enough before, how will playing in an inferior league for a year improve him? It won't. The players you mentioned were all younger and weren't a flop in the PL a year ago were they? Think.
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Joe Cole wasn't good enough a year ago, he is now off the pace as he's been playing in an inferior league where he played nothing more than okay. If we keep him, don't expect much. Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa, Jelavic all came from inferior leagues and havent struggled too much. Pointless argument. Many more people can't make the step up from inferior leagues to this one. Naming a few that have is just using up some letters. Most cannot. And my point which seems to have gone over your head is that if he wasn't good enough before, how will playing in an inferior league for a year improve him? It won't. The players you mentioned were all younger and weren't a flop in the PL a year ago were they? Think. I agree with bigredkop, Joe Cole will be money thrown away. He hasn't got the determination or enthusiasm of the likes of Bellamy and he's priced far too high. And an absolutely redundant point about inferior leagues, the real point is the players you named generally play well while Cole doesn't....whether in the premiership or a lower class league! Spot on.
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I honestly thought he was coming off an injury and was never really given a chance. He has cut in in the PL before, and he did fine with Lille this year. Rodgers knows him very well. I think he could do very well.
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I honestly thought he was coming off an injury and was never really given a chance. He has cut in in the PL before, and he did fine with Lille this year. Rodgers knows him very well. I think he could do very well. Well if he gets a chance I will hope for the best as I liked him at chelsea and he is someone who in the past (a long time ago) could unlock defences. If he can bring it back then he will be very useful, I just unfortunately can't see it happening.
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If we can't use him, we need to sell him, just like Aqualani. No more of this loan nonsense.
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Wake up!
The problem with Cole is that he sits on a contract with a massive wage bill attached (about £ 90k a week)! The contract doesn't expire until July 2014.
This means we can:
1) Let him be at LFC until then and use him.
2) Loan him out to for instance Lille, and they take care of a part of his wages - for example 50 %.
3) Sell him to a club that's interested in taking over his massive salary - but who in their right mind would do that? You cant force a player out of the club just because you want to. We could compensate Joe for his lost wages until 2014 and sell him now of course - but that wouldn't help us a bit financially.
So, as you can see, we're fücked either way here!
I suspect BR will let Joe have a chance to prove himself in pre season. That's the only sane way of attacking this problem as I see it. I mean we initially wanted Joe for his skills, and if he just could start producing some of that, then most of this problem would be solved in a blink. Remain would only the unbelievable pay check! But in 2 years time that's gone too!
I honestly believe Joe will hang on and see his contract out, whether he gets to play or not - because he's not one of those persons with his heart at Liverpool.
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Would like both Cole an Aqua back both deserve a second go,if only we could get 25+ games from both of them.Aqualani has got loads of talent pity about the injuries tho! Joe Cole on his day great player and showed his worth on loan last season @ Lille.
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He deserves tp come back and show us his true worth but hope he doesnt try to impress to hard like the game against Arsnal where he was shown Red. Like the song the Lille supporters gave him. He must have impressed them so that Joe would be welcomed back plus Aqua as well would aid Buck implementing his Spanish-scouse brand of footie so clean slates all round!
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