KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Handling Of Carragher is a defining factor............

Regarding the Mental Strength of our new manager and the Direction he will take us.

Carra is a club legend but these days he is past it and as much as I love him, I don't even know if he should in reality be our 4th choice centre-back let alone 3rd choice pushing the front two for a starting berth!

Apart from the odd monumental effort versus one of our major rivals Carra's form has been shocking for about 18 months when you compare it to his prior 10 years. No longer that driving force he was, he gets by on the rare occasions he starts on bucketloads of passion but even those resources are drying up now and it showed so many times last season with sloppy mistakes.

I'm interested to see how BR utilises a club legend from this day forward because Carra still wants to fight for a place and if he doesn't get one or feels could this become an issue within the dressing room I wonder?

Not that for one minute I think Carra is or could be a troublemaker but nonetheless, the man holds power within our club.

In reality and in my opinion, I believe the ruthless direction would be the one to go down and I would phase him out to the point where Carra was 4th or even 5th choice CB and rolled out in the early rounds/group stages of the Europa and the Carling Cup early matches. I would also guage his interest in becoming a part of the coaching setup if possible even as early as this season.

I just feel that his handling of No. 23 will tell us so nuch about our new manager.

Our true Defensive Jewel is Agger. Always quality and raises Skrtel's level considerably. Whenever the Dane is out, Skrtel reverts back to being Captain Shaky.

I usually get a quivery sphincter when I saw Carra and Skrtel line up for matches at certain points last season and.

Thoughs guys?

YNWA

Carragher can never hold a place in a side that needs to pass rather than hoof it. If Rodgers is going to teach us to pass it from the back, Carra will never get a game - Agger, Skrtel, Kelly, and Coates are all far better footballers than Carragher, even if their reading of the play is inferior. Remember that Rodgers' system at Swansea used a high defensive line where the fullbacks pushed up, the CBs moved wide, and the DM dropped back to form a back 3. That is ideal for Agger and Kelly who have experience playing as fullbacks on their respective flanks, while Carragher is simply too slow to deal with any wide player in the league.

if thunder is right and he usually is that might also be good for lucas - in my view lucas is better in a midfield of 3 rather than 4

I can't see Caragher getting a game next season unless the whole of the other back 4 get injured. Great servant but his time has come and gone. It fact it went about a year ago.

Yeah Carragher is highly unlikely to get a game next season, we should have a new vice captain e.g. Lucas or Reina

carragher or no player can hold the club to ransom if rogers feels he is 4th or 5th choice then its up to carragher or anyone to either get on with it or move on , dalglish didnt play him no moaning out of him then so i dont expect it now and that goes for any player .

if buck plays carra he is weak

if he benches him like kenny was trying to do then he has my respect

carra needs to stop being so selfish and step aside for the good of Liverpool fc

So sad when a player of THE Legend Carras undoubted previous but now fading monster talent reaches the end of his playing days.

I could weep thinking back to just how good he's been and never to be witnessed to that degree again.

He's got to be found a job within the training staff at Melwood. Far too knowledgeable to be left rotting on the bench

I would agree with that Growler. Provided BR is happy we don't know the personalities etc without being there ourselves. No one is bigger than the club and we all need to pull together. Not saying Catragher is not that person or would not fit in but just being a legend is not enough.

yes i agree but all top players finish its now carraghers turn maybe the club should give him a job but in the end that is up to carragher if he is offered one .