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i would bring terry before rio. i think he is someone who will deliver when it counts. rio will bottle it.

i think the race thing is a ludicrous accusation if im being honest.


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Rio is not allowed play for England because he is black like his brother and terry the racist is chosen instead. This all from a country who openly tore Suarez to shreds through every media outlet. Is is a joke? everyone on TV is talking about football reasons they don't believe that do they? Nobody has mentioned the racism reason!!! This type of hypocrisy is they reason I want to see England fail at the euros


I reckon that's going a bit far, mate. I know the precedent is that one doesn't need proof, but calling a former LFC manager a racist is disgusting.


I wasn't calling hogson a racist I was talking about terry who may or may not be a racist getting his place and his alleged victims brother excluded for football reasons?????


Then pardon me for misreading "...because he is black like his brother..." as an accusation of racism.

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Hodgson is trying to build for the future!he has brought in kelly because he knows that the experience of going to the euros will be a big help for the world cup.Hodgson wont be judged on this competition but he will be when the world cup arrives.he is giving him self the best chance he can by bringing players like Kelly through.Ferdinand is past it and he isnt match fit.kelly is.

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roy has picked players he knows and trusts and martin kelly is a good enough sub , england will have terry,lescott,jones,jaglikia and martin kelly to play centre back , even steven gerrard could play there in an emergency , i say well done roy sticking to his guns and not falling to the press clamour for ferdinand

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please don't misunderstand me flames.

I am not saying roy or england fa are racist, I am saying that the whole affair has played a part in rio not being selected.

I would not have picked rio or terry tbh.

I am over the moon that kelly is there he is class.


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Putting the terry/rio fiasco aside, I would of still taken Terry who is still a bit mobile and can be great on his day. Rio has been terrible for the past 3 seasons and does not deserve to go with the squad ahead of those players.


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football is a game of opinions so fair play


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Johnson, Gerrard, Carroll, Henderson and now Kelly. For a team that's had its worst season in 50 years, it's quite strange. Kelly is an excellent prospect, little bit surprised to see him there though. He has trouble getting in the 8th best premier league side.

How many will return injured I wonder...


You forgot our high flying winger with zero assists.


+1. Classic.


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People calling for Rio should understand that Fergie practically pleaded with Roy not to take him, saying that he couldn't play all those games in that short time. So Roy is not taking him and that's fair enough. Jagielka and Lescott are better.

People calling for Micah and Carrick should understand that they refused, yes refused, to be on the stand-by list. Why should they get to play for England now? This is an incredibly arrogant and selfish thing to say to a new England manager and I'm glad they are no longer under consideration - why should they be? Kelly will canceled his holiday to sit on the bench for England - and thus deserves to go - as does Hendo.

As for Paul Scholes. He retired from England duty during his prime. He refused to come back for Fabio. Why would any England manager consider him? So he had a decent season - he's a stroppy little git and doesn't deserve consideration.


+1.

They didn't want to be there, so they're not. If they want to blame someone they need only look in the mirror. I'd take a player who wants to play for the shirt every day over these nancys.

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Can't fault your logic thundyr. As for Terry and Rio, if I had to make a choice between the two and for pure footballing reasons alone, I would have gone with Terry.


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