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top 4 or out says I

I'm inclined to agree with that, however I could forgive Rafa for not finishing top 4 IF several key players are out for long periods, and he gets the team player better football.

hey if it was houiller's target with his lesser squad then why change for Rafa.

I agree we should be finishing top 4 but under Houllier it should have been considerably easier to finish in the top 3 as Chelsea and City weren't owned by billionaires

i guess i am fed up of people giving me excuses to this and that. End of the day we are nonperforming and that needs to stop, to make sure we retain top 4 place.

there are no excuses for not getting a top 4 finish - injuries didn't stop the scum battering the hammers did they?? all this pathetic excuse making for rafa is not hiding the fact that he needs to change things around ....... the problem is that he is stubborn and refuses to do so - that is why he has to be replaced ...... we have to accept that we don't have the money to buy the best players for each position, so what we need is a flexible manager. One who will make formation changes and tactical changes to suit the players at his disposal. What we have is one who decides on a way of playing and sticks to it no matter what happens

it's time to look elsewhere

oh and as for that crap about pro common sense group flamey - that is exactly what it is - crap! there is nothing common sense about supporting blindly using blind faith

yep there's too many excuses at the moment...ok, we have had a lot of injuries but i don't think rafa has made the best of the situation...if he had some faith in the youth players he would have given some of them a chance like united have done with gibson and everton with rodwell. i know i had this discussion a few week ago with someone who said maybe we don't have kids who are as talented as those players. maybe not, but how can you know if you don't give them a chance to prove themselves on the highest level?

and durig games such as the latest against rovers rafa did nothing to try and win the game...he's too negative and too stubborn in those situations and at the moment it's costing us a lot...

without a top 4 spot he should definetyly leave. even if we make it i'm still doubting if i want him to stay because latelty he has really showed a lot of weaknesses...

i see what you are saying dunk.but can we really afford to wait another season and fall further behind the other big clubs before deciding that he should go.i feel if the board were to wait before bringing down the axe we would all be saying they should have done it earlier.
i think the only reason the board will give him more time from the end of the season is because they fear some of our big players(Torres,Reina)will be more likely to leave the club if Rafa is not incharge.
i would give him till the end of the season and see if we squeeze into the top 4.if not bye bye Rafa.i dont think we would make a managerial change in mid season even if perhaps they should.

yea but if we are a [oops] club then we are not going to make money are we. they're not idiots. success brings money.

i think we all have known that for a long time (that they only care about money).

but as flamey says, the only way for them to make money is if the club is successful, so if we sold our key players without replacing them with class players the club would go under. and they probably know that...