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Hello lads.

As the new Liverpool manager, what would you do with the following players;

Joe Cole
Alberto Aquilani
Jonjo Shelvey
Jay Spearing
Raheem Sterling
Jesus Fernandez Saez (Suso)
Martin Kelly
Sebastián Coates
Danny Wilson
John Flanagan
Jack Robinson
Joao Carlos Teixeira

Who would you sell/loan/promote and in what competitions would you play them in?

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Joe Cole
Alberto Aquilani

I'd sell these two for whatever anyone is willing to give us, just to get them off the wage bill. I'm thinking that would save around two hundred thousand pounds a week. That money could then be used to bring in 3-4 younger lads on about £50,000 a week (Rasmus Elm, Gaston Ramirez - Not sure how much they'd command in wages, would £50k be enough? - See Newcastle FC signings last season).

Jay Spearing - I'd also move Jay Spearing on. I like the lad, he works hard and doesn't go missing in games after making mistakes however, I just don't think he's ever going to offer us more than somebody who works hard. He has never looked a threat going forward and doesn't really have any other dimensions to his game.

PROMOTE:

Jonjo Shelvey
Raheem Sterling
Jesus Fernandez Saez (Suso)
Martin Kelly
Sebastián Coates
Danny Wilson
John Flanagan
Jack Robinson
Joao Carlos Teixeira

These players I'd like to see rotated in Preseason, The Carling Cup and early stages of the Europa League. I'd consider loaning Jonjo Shelvey out to West Ham (apparently he's a fan).

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Joe Cole - Sell and free up wages
Alberto Aquilani - If he wants to come back give him a chance and keep him
Jonjo Shelvey - Keep him as he will have more of a role to play next season and could develop into a top player
Jay Spearing - Sell him. He is 23 now I think and is not up for the challenge. I like his determination though.
Raheem Sterling - Keep him and give him more game time this season as he is our future
Jesus Fernandez Saez (Suso) - Had high hopes for him but fear he will turn out to be another Pacheco. However I would give him some game time to see what he can do
Martin Kelly - Keep him as he will be our captain one day. Would start him ahead of Johnson
Sebastián Coates - Keep him as he is good cover and again should develop into a solid defender
Danny Wilson - What happened him? He was ridiculously good in football manager 2011. Loan him out to see if he can develop. Big disappointment so far though
John Flanagan - Loan him out as there is potential there but doesn't seem up for the challenge yet.
Jack Robinson - Keep him as a back up defender as he is our future left back and game time will only improve him
Joao Carlos Teixeira - I have no idea about this guy


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Cole spearing are the most to go for me

Cole wages alone should be reason enough if he is not a first timer

Spearing was given a run but apart from a good work rate gives nothing more and looks a championship player to me

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I'm really interested to see what happens with Teixeira next season. Will he be expected to complete a year in the reserves before he gets a look in at the first team or will he be given a chance in cup competitions? I'm hoping for the latter.

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Originally Posted By: KingoftheKop
Hello lads.

As the new Liverpool manager, what would you do with the following players;

Joe Cole
Alberto Aquilani
Jonjo Shelvey
Jay Spearing
Raheem Sterling
Jesus Fernandez Saez (Suso)
Martin Kelly
Sebastián Coates
Danny Wilson
John Flanagan
Jack Robinson
Joao Carlos Teixeira

Who would you sell/loan/promote and in what competitions would you play them in?


I think one needs to consider what kind of football I intend to play before thinking about who to sell and keep. Our problems last season stemmed from defensive issues - conceding soft goals, and then trying to fix that by defending deep, which didn't stop the soft goals but did stop us scoring them at the other end. A higher line, a sweeper-keeper - these suggest our fullbacks will get forward more often. Therefore we do not need to stay with 4-4-2 as a way of having men up front - 4-3-3 is probably best, and we have the depth at CB (and especially Lucas who could easily drop back between the CBs the way Mascherano did at Barcelona), which makes 3 at the back a possibility (3-4-3, 3-5-2). As such I would want an extra midfielder, preferably a defensive one as Lucas is so central to our plans and has no able backup. I would definitely want another striker, and a backup at left wing (ie not Bellamy).

Cole, Spearing - sell. The former because he's a squad player on higher wages than practically every other player on our books, the latter because he just doesn't have it to be a Liverpool player.

Aquilani - keep if a central midfield 3 looks like the way forward in pre-season, as we'll need his creativity. If 4-4-2 is the only answer, then sell him if we can.

Shelvey, Henderson - keep as backups for Aquilani, Lucas and Gerrard (Hendo more defensive, Shelvey more attacking, able to play together in a 2-man midfield), play them together in the cups resting 2 of the other 3.

Kelly, Coates - squad players who will feature heavily in the Carling Cup and Europa League, but may see first team action if we go with 3 at the back for the whole season

Sterling, Flanagan, Robinson - occasional players against weaker opposition and in cups, with only the odd start if they impress during their run-outs. This is the first season they should be exposed to more than half a dozen games in order that they understand our system and our players so that when they get out there the following season they are not overawed and everything is already comfortable.

Suso, Wilson, Coady, Wisdom, Morgan, Teixeira, Amoo - stay with the reserve/youth squad, but get the odd look in with the first team, maybe even travel to a Europa League away game and just sit the bench - basically the same treatment that Sterling got this season.

We also omitted:
Maxi, Aurelio - sell
Kuyt - keep because we'll need the extra players in Europe

Backup striker, backup right wing, backup left wing - for now Kuyt and Bellamy fit these roles, or use the youth (Morgan, Suso, Sterling, Amoo). I think only the 3rd striker should be a priority if we play 3 up front (Downing (L) - Carroll - Suarez (R)), but if we go with 2 up top then we'll need a right winger to splash some money on as well.

Backup DM - without Spearing we lack a quality backup to Lucas, so we'll need to invest here because the 3rd player will be necessary over the season.

Backup AMC - just use Suso if we run into heavy injury problems

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Joe Cole.....sell him
Alberto Aquilani.....keep him
Jonjo Shelvey...keep him
Jay Spearing...sell him
Raheem Sterling...keep him
Jesus Fernandez Saez (Suso)...keep him
Martin Kelly...keep him(future LFC captain in my opinion)
Sebastián Coates...keep him (coates and kelly at the centre in 3 or 4 years
Danny Wilson...sell him
John Flanagan...keep him
Jack Robinson...keep him
Joao Carlos Teixeira...who????


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