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Re: Martinez flies to Boston cjkent #232755 22/05/12 01:18 PM
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Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	Originally Posted By: cjkent I think people who say he should move wigan are not understanding what Martinez works with Do you know how much wigan spend each season, last season i don't think they brought in much at all and certainly less than villa qpr bolton and even wolves. The guy works off a show string, how are wigan ever going to climb the table, in my eyes it s an achievement to stay in the premier league season after season. Do i think he is like hogdson no i don't and i find that insulting some people do. Hodgson was an old type manager stuck in his ways, Martinez is new and has fresh ideas and a good tactical brain. It seems some on here will if he is picked will be on his back from game one. Yes i agree they maybe better managers but they don't want to come so we have to be realistic. A bit harsh. I didn't see martinez picking up the LMA manager of the year award for his so-called 'fresh' ideas (whatever that means). I wasn't overjoyed when Hodgson was appointed but I can understand why he was. If RM gets the job I just won't be able to work out 'why'? OK - he's kept his team in the premier league with a small budget, but so has lambert, rodgers, moyes, mcleish, hodgson, jol and pulis. Jol, Moyes and Hodgson all have better CVs and lambert & rodgers both won promotion to the premier league. Surely martinez should be one of the least likely candidates?

Re: Martinez flies to Boston Carheex #232758 22/05/12 01:24 PM
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cjkent 1st Team Squad Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor	you are joking right some of them teams have spend 4 times the money Martinez has. I don't rem wigan shelling 18m for bent lol or spending the money like fulham. Even wolves spend more than wigan so i feel that a little harsh too. Wigan are not a premier league team as they don't have the crowds or the money to spend. I think Martinez if picked should be giving full backing

Re: Martinez flies to Boston LFC2k5 #232759 22/05/12 01:24 PM
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LiverbirdLain 1st Team Squad Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,304 VENUS	I dont think we are poison chalice but the likes of Morinho,cappello, pepe etc is never going to happen simply because they did well in their early careers and then stepped up to the bigger clubs but the simple facts now are they go nowhere without ready made big player name and wealthy clubs,we arnt wealthy enough for them thats all. They will fail at LFC and wouldnt dare risk a building project. Life is beautiful when you find Love when you find the place your meant to be when you find the one to give your heart to as for me this is you this is Love

Re: Martinez flies to Boston cjkent #232769 22/05/12 01:43 PM
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Growler 1st Team Regular Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,913 HELL Porto	Originally Posted By: cjkent you are joking right some of them teams have spend 4 times the money Martinez has. I don't rem wigan shelling 18m for bent lol or spending the money like fulham. Even wolves spend more than wigan so i feel that a little harsh too. Wigan are not a premier league team as they don't have the crowds or the money to spend. I think Martinez if picked should be giving full backing He will be. Just hope for both his and our sakes that it doesn't happen.

Re: Martinez flies to Boston Growler #232772 22/05/12 01:47 PM
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cjkent 1st Team Squad Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor	if it does i shall be happy and hopeful I am sure someone was saying the same things growler in the 50's when shankly was appointed

Re: Martinez flies to Boston cjkent #232774 22/05/12 01:59 PM
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Growler 1st Team Regular Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,913 HELL Porto	Originally Posted By: cjkent if it does i shall be happy and hopeful I am sure someone was saying the same things growler in the 50's when shankly was appointed Slight difference then though. We were striving for greatness from nothing. Other way 'round now.

Re: Martinez flies to Boston Growler #232775 22/05/12 02:00 PM
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cjkent 1st Team Squad Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,262 Beneath that trapdoor	maybe but i just don't think people should write him off just because he isn't big name enough

Re: Martinez flies to Boston cjkent #232778 22/05/12 02:08 PM
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Growler 1st Team Regular Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,913 HELL Porto	Originally Posted By: cjkent maybe but i just don't think people should write him off just because he isn't big name enough Not denying that, but it's just not sitting comfy within my mind. Rafa IS the man for the job, like it or not...IMO...and many others now too it seems. Proven track record under extreme circumstances too during his reign. Drove us all bloody mad with his zonal marking crap, but hey, he can be forgiven, especially when you think just how close he came to winning us the PL title in '09 for the very first time.

Re: Martinez flies to Boston Growler #232783 22/05/12 02:14 PM
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Stanley Park Liverpool Legend Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 27,628 Not the EU	Just listening to the wireless this morning in the morning room while eating some agreeable specially imported French croissants. A cup of earl grey complemented them perfectly. Anyway on the wireless it said Martinez was heading back for second interview. IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY

Re: Martinez flies to Boston Stanley Park #232793 22/05/12 02:30 PM
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hairypalms Trialist H Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 8 Durham	It just has to be Rafa. I'm uneasy about the untested Martinez and the calibre of player he could attract, especially with the club's current standing. Rafa, on the other hand, knows the club and the players and is still highly restpected across Europe. His name would certainly help us recruit a better standard of player with real prospects of CL football. Martinez is too much of a gamble and AVB hasn't received many positives since Chelsea. I do fear a player exodus if the club lack ambition this window.

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