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My feeling is there is only so many ideas you can have, we have the squad we have, its proven ways we need,who has the knowledge to apply that better? Have all the ideas we want,putting them into action is what counts,thats why most want proven names not unknown entities. It may only be me but everytime i hear second round talks for Martinez i feel  I hope im wrong....but?
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Rafa is going backwards to me and to be fair there is a risk in every appointment we make.
Do i think rafa has ore chance of succeed honestly no i don't. I think the best think for the club will be to move forward under a new guy be it Martinez or even avb.
I think rafa will be Kenny part two i am afraid
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It's Rafa, but FSG would not touch him with a barge pole, these advisers are pulling the strings, FSG haven't got a f*cking clue. That's why they want Martinez, it ain't about where he's come from, or about him winning nothing at all. It's all about image to those yanks, "If only we had Martinez during the Suarez incident"....you can imagine it....tell me it aint so! Martinez really wants this job for his own trophy filled career, with a tear in his eye he said to Dave Whelan "It's time Dave...." and on that day he departed Wigan Athletic and jumped on a flight to Boston to give BJ's and a wink to all involved. The writing was on the wall, the ultimate yes man on a 5 year contract....it don't even matter if we get relegated as long as Roberto smiles and says yes to FSG. Sorry times lie ahead  balony..as if people with money who want their investment to go up talk like this. the reason they are going martinez is that they are going spanish . the DOF is going to be the texi B fella , and they want the high pressing game that spanish footballers are doing at the moment and martinez had wigan doing. he has also made players out of scrap heap players.i really thought distefeno was a waste of time when i first saw him in the prem.looked like a world class player last few weeks.maloney the same.. this is the most fantastic thing for our club, its us finally catching up with the future..sorry the fans can't see this(and can only see WIGAN) but you will soon enough
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I have gone for Benitez.
While there is something interesting about the idea of trying Martinez - he seems to be tactically astute, plays positive football, is good with the press and importantly, ambitious, I am struggling to see how he can compete with Benitez for the job.
Any new manager coming into this job with a low profile is going to struggle when results are not as good as hoped or expected. My own view is that the current players are capable of higher than 8th, but not of 4th, so unless the new guy is given significant funds, there is a fair chance the crowd wont warm to him and will be chanting for Benitez before you know it. (this seems the opposite of what i understood Liverpool fans to be, but unfortunately it has been brought about by these recent years of regression and a resultant sense of desperation). so this makes me think that, good as he may prove to be, this isn't the time for Martinez. I just don't think he has demonstrated yet that he is ready. He represents promise and potential but no real evidence.
At the age of 44, Rafa Benitez signed for Liverpool in 2004, having won two Spanish league titles and a UEFA cup with Valencia. To me this is the sort of demonstration of ability a club like Liverpool requires to take a chance on a young manager.
if Liverpool go for Martinez, i will support him. it is about time the Liverpool fans pulled together like we used to. But my preference would be for Benitez. I strongly believe he is the best candidate for the job. You could say there is more risk in not taking him than taking him.
But if there is anything the owners will have learned in the past 18 months it is not to be swayed by the fans. They have to be comfortable with who they take in and we have to accept that and support whoever comes in.
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Too much is being made of 'moving forward', as most people seem to think it means employing a manager who has never worked for LFC before. Why can't we employ Rafa and he moves us forward? Kenny didn't fail 'because' he had worked for LFC previously so why would the same apply to rafa?? There's just no logic to that at all.
I think most people will agree that Martinez has a higher risk of being our next "Hodgson", than Rafa has of being our next "kenny".
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benitez isn't in the running..fans need to forget about him..and there is reasons he isn't in the running either. those reasons will be well known to people within the game..he has burnt many bridges has rafa,with owners ,staff and players.
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It's Rafa, but FSG would not touch him with a barge pole, these advisers are pulling the strings, FSG haven't got a f*cking clue. That's why they want Martinez, it ain't about where he's come from, or about him winning nothing at all. It's all about image to those yanks, "If only we had Martinez during the Suarez incident"....you can imagine it....tell me it aint so! Martinez really wants this job for his own trophy filled career, with a tear in his eye he said to Dave Whelan "It's time Dave...." and on that day he departed Wigan Athletic and jumped on a flight to Boston to give BJ's and a wink to all involved. The writing was on the wall, the ultimate yes man on a 5 year contract....it don't even matter if we get relegated as long as Roberto smiles and says yes to FSG. Sorry times lie ahead balony..as if people with money who want their investment to go up talk like this. the reason they are going martinez is that they are going spanish . the DOF is going to be the texi B fella , and they want the high pressing game that spanish footballers are doing at the moment and martinez had wigan doing. he has also made players out of scrap heap players.i really thought distefeno was a waste of time when i first saw him in the prem.looked like a world class player last few weeks.maloney the same.. this is the most fantastic thing for our club, its us finally catching up with the future..sorry the fans can't see this(and can only see WIGAN) but you will soon enough That did make me laugh! 
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It's Rafa, but FSG would not touch him with a barge pole, these advisers are pulling the strings, FSG haven't got a f*cking clue. That's why they want Martinez, it ain't about where he's come from, or about him winning nothing at all. It's all about image to those yanks, "If only we had Martinez during the Suarez incident"....you can imagine it....tell me it aint so! Martinez really wants this job for his own trophy filled career, with a tear in his eye he said to Dave Whelan "It's time Dave...." and on that day he departed Wigan Athletic and jumped on a flight to Boston to give BJ's and a wink to all involved. The writing was on the wall, the ultimate yes man on a 5 year contract....it don't even matter if we get relegated as long as Roberto smiles and says yes to FSG. Sorry times lie ahead balony..as if people with money who want their investment to go up talk like this. the reason they are going martinez is that they are going spanish . the DOF is going to be the texi B fella , and they want the high pressing game that spanish footballers are doing at the moment and martinez had wigan doing. he has also made players out of scrap heap players.i really thought distefeno was a waste of time when i first saw him in the prem.looked like a world class player last few weeks.maloney the same.. this is the most fantastic thing for our club, its us finally catching up with the future..sorry the fans can't see this(and can only see WIGAN) but you will soon enough That did make me laugh! because its true? or have you not watch martinez's sides ..they play high up the pitch pressure game
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I don't mind people having differing opinion that's what makes the board what it is.
But if you make statements please check your facts
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look lads he might be right. dont rule it out. we need to have our eyes open here. we are still a club in a very vulnerable state and at a cross roads. if martinez and fsg were to fck this up our reputation and standing could be damaged irreparably for a long time. Don't rule out him being wrong. ANd don't rule out this oft predicted doomsday never coming. Clubs get over managers - look how many CHelsea have had. If AVB or Martinez or Rafa don't work out - we switch gears and go again. Sometimes new manager infuse a team with energy and urgency - like we've seen recently! Chelsea never appointed an inexperienced manager though. Did they? Whoever they apponted had a history of working with big clubs.
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