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The reason I'm so apprehensive about Martinez is that I there have been FAR TOO MANY 'Match of the Day's' where Hansen and Lawrenson have utterly ridiculed the Wigan defence. These are premiership footballers and they're getting the basics absolutely wrong. If you look at the last 8-9 premiership games this season for Wigan they were good. This either means Martinez now knows the magic answer (and we're assuming it's because of him and not his back room staff) and will replicate that with Liverpool - and then amplify it because he'll inherit a better squad. I'm just not sold on it. I think a 'one season wonder' like AvB at Porto is a big enough gamble let alone a '7 game wonder'.

Maybe we should just accept the fact that we r not as BIG as we use to be. Managers would've jump to the chance to manage us, but now everybody except the a few "low profile" managers wants to distance themselves from us, so it's gonna be risky whoever we appoint.

I like Martinez. Always have since his Swansea days. He laid the foundations at that club. I would have taken him instead of Hodgson any day at the time. But something is worrying me about this. I'll support him if he gets it but I just fear he won't be given a fair crack as lots seem to favour Rafa.

He's a good manager, a very good manager you could argue but will he be good enough for what we want and need?

Do not want Martinez and I still believe we can attract better.
Im not expecting Pep etc but we should at least be able to attract an AVB or a Rafa etc whom have won things in top flight football.
Martinez has had plenty of time to move Wigan on but they have a copy and paste season every year. If this job was up a few month ago he would not even be in the running for it I reckon and his hype has come due to Wigan beating some big teams to stay up at the end etc. You will recall Hodgson also had some big wins at Fulham.

I think people who say he should move wigan are not understanding what Martinez works with

Do you know how much wigan spend each season, last season i don't think they brought in much at all and certainly less than villa qpr bolton and even wolves.

The guy works off a show string, how are wigan ever going to climb the table, in my eyes it s an achievement to stay in the premier league season after season.

Do i think he is like hogdson no i don't and i find that insulting some people do. Hodgson was an old type manager stuck in his ways, Martinez is new and has fresh ideas and a good tactical brain. It seems some on here will if he is picked will be on his back from game one. Yes i agree they maybe better managers but they don't want to come so we have to be realistic.

I can see Martinez done well on his shoestring etc but if we want up and coming then we need to get the best of the up and coming so why arent people looking at Pardew? surely he wins that argument hands down? or is there another agenda going on for FSG: ie yes man needed?

I agree pardew has done well but that's just one season, we see how next season goes for them.

Martinez has done this for 3 seasons and deserves a shot in my eyes, i am sure they said the same at Valencia when they picked and unproven rafa lol.

We are between a rock and a hard place. No manager worth anything wants anything to do with us right now (a combination of our poisoned challice stigma and being the wrong time for certain managers, klopp etc only been at their clubs a couple of years), so we are left with the managers nobody else wants (no 'big' team anyway) so the only one from the original cast is martinez, a manager that barely avoids relegation every year (how ludicrous is that?!) and because of this he will be unpopular, and people will be calling for his head unless he wins most of his first 10 games, and what will they be singing? BENITEZ BENITEZ BENITEZ just like they did with Kenny during Hodgson's reign. Thus making Roberto's an untenable position.

6 months in. Sack. Replace with benitez. Good first 6 months. Tail off next season. Sack. Liverpool in an even worse position.

I'm deliberately giving the worse case scenario right now. Martinez could wake up on the right side of the bed and be the next ferguson (highly unlikely) but we are in a terrible position right now. The best candidates don't want us.

There is a myth that non-AVB fans dislike him because he upset senior players.
Bullsh*t. Read Lukaku's statement yesterday and it showed he did a crap job with younger players aswell.
AVB is out of his depth at this stage of his career with one good job at the almost automatic champions of Portugal. Fair enough on the Uefa Cup win.
I want Rafa back but appointing AVB would be lunacy.

I fear fsg have looked at the books seen the mess with stadium plans and now plan to appt a cheap manager and hope we finish higher then sell up. im worried about lfc. if they appt martinez we have to be concerned