KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Are we about to see the REAL FSG now?

I may be wrong but my feeling is FSG let Liverpool free to manage for the first two years seeing how it panned out.

When they took over I knew nothing about them and to be honest still don’t. However we told they were very professional and ran sports franchises very well and had a good record with Redsox. And this was confirmed by some of the American lads who comment on this forum. I guess here in the UK and elsewhere we have to take that at face value.

Clearly it’s not panned out very well on several fronts and I read in the times several months ago FSG were looking to take more direct control and so it’s proved. So I wonder now are from now on we Liverpool fans going to see the real FSG in action the entity we are told they are? In other words taking their own decisions based on their knowhow and applying that model to LFC which worked for them in the US?

Not entirely of course and I am sure they will keep the Liverpool culture but take less notice now of advisers in the UK and possibly (and hopefully) fans pressure groups like SOS. The moneyball theory which was never going to work in a sport like football which has far more variables than baseball will probably find its way into the trash can too.

So was the first two years the phoney ownership and now we are going to see the real one once the new management team is in place?

the future is bright and I cannot wait to get the new manager and start the season.

I think you are right KP the Kenny situation diverted them. It seemed a good idea to appoint him back then but he was not really their choice they wanted their own man. That I think was part of the reason they got rid he had to prove himself to them and unfortunetly he did not. Unfortunetly for FSG we are two years further down the line and as time goes on harder and harder for us to catch up.

not exactly, we have taken two steps back with kenny, but won a cup for our hassles.

now we have got rid of him and commolli and the future is bright

the dof position is vital to our future.

Kop Prophet we can interpret Kenny's contribution in many ways. In some ways we will never know it may have all gelled next year we will never know. The main thing for me is he has gone. I am more than happy to look on his reign in a postive light but it really is neither here not there in relevance. I am sure most supporters will feel Kenny's reputation is intact but had he stayed another year then had it not worked out then he would not be remembered in a good light. So in that sense its worked out for him.

your silly baiting comments are not taken seriously by anyone on the forum

talking about class will only get you banned again if you don't stop.

The club was a day or two from been in a worst position than rangers are in now. The magnitude of what going into administration and what it would have done to the club is unthinkable. People have to remember that the asset stripping of the club was already well under way with players been sold and replaced with poor quality ones.

The big problem was that in these bad old days the likes of SOS ( who done a tremendous job at helping to oust H&G) grew a massive fan base. They now feel like they should have a say on the running of the club, would shankly of allowed this????? I don't think so. If they are up in arms about kenny going, then the same should of happened for woy. Kenny was brought in to steady the ship and get the team back in some shape with a bit of pride and he did a magnificent job to do that. But from Christmas on having relegation form is not on at all.

FSG are doing what they have done with everything they have bought. Steady the ship , in this case bringing back kenny after Roy failed. Look into every aspect of what revenues can be made, the reason Ayre is still at the club because he is very good at this end and looking at every way possible what would be the best way to approach the stadium issue, on this they never gave a date or promised a spade in the ground

Bill shankly came to LFC and revolutionised it. Now it's time it happened again. Sad fact is that shanks ways are out of date and don't work anymore. It can no longer be " us against the world" it just does not work like that anymore, it's no longer a case of the supporters who go to all the games are the most important (sadly I must say) but all support is equally as important. Asia support alone is worth millions of tens of millions, do we turn our nose up at this because it's not from merseyside?? No, there has to be a way to embrace it all or get left behind.

In a way the next month and the appointment of manager and DOF is the biggest in the clubs history. We have been getting the mix wrong for a while now that is one or the other has been wrong ( Rafa great and H&G + crusty wrong). We have to get it right this time, have to been a under statement.

Highwayman as you have rightly pointed out commercial development is the ethos for Liverpool as it is for all the top clubs. But all fans are not equal by definition from above the business model is to extract money from fans. That money comes from mulitiple sources but always directly or indirectly from fans whether subsription or advertising / sponsorship. So the fan who pays most is by definition the most important in the clubs eyes. It does not matter who you are or where you are in the world they want your money either actually or potentially.