its the truth and by saying that hes bringing down the huge and daft expectation level on the club every season,in a way hes trying to give the next amn in charge a bit of breathing room,so if the first few results are a bit hit and miss,the usual there goes another title quotes that come out aren't there. As far as him forcing away Torres and arbeloa,you gotta be joking,arbeloa was brought through the real mardid youth system,is a madrid fan and had the chance to go back and play for his boyhood team who were rebuilding for a new ere. Dont think Carra tellin him off for being constantle out of position,which he was a lot,caused the lad to leave. £250.000 a week caused nando to leave,im suprised your making excuses for that mate. regarding the apology it was just trying to get away from the fact that brought brian reade into the forum,which seems to be a bit of a no-no