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and we lost to a shiit milan team.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria He came from Barca, to bring us Joy He's five foot seven, he's football heaven please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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fergie wont even remember him, he has rolled out twenty titles, he wont give a shiit about benitez. some of our performances in europe have been awful, but our name was on that trophy in 2005. nearly went out to olympiakos and AC, plus we got our ghost goal against chelsea. i know we deserved to win the cup, like any team who wins does, but its not like we tore the place apart. we were shocking in the early rounds and in the groups.
no one is afraid of benitez because he got found out and the inter milan saga made a joke of him.
i also dont understand this "break has done him good" thing thats going around. im sorry but what on earth does that mean? what is it based on? Ferguson was terrified of him to the point that he actually got other managers to say things about him in the press. you might remember the sam allardyce incident. there was only one manager ranting that season and it wasnt rafa. in 2005 we had no right to contest a european cup final with that squad. we improved in the league every single year, whilst remaining competitive in europe and making another final in 2007, still not spending big money, and nothing compared to our rivals. it went wrong towards the end, but i would be interested to see another manager who could operate under those conditions.
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Well it seems this structure is catering for Rafa doesn't it?
With the appointment of Xavi Valero, Jen Chang, rumor of Txiki Birsh*tstain as D-O-F, retention of Steve Clarke (with a struggle).
Rafa will work with people if everybody works together, isn't that what every normal manager and man would want? Everyone working in unison, no one gunning for one another, nobody interfering, full backing of the owners?
If the owners back Rafa like he has never been backed before and we are not successful, then I give up.
IT HAS TO WORK.
ok fine but remember everyti me he has had to work under a structure he has caused conflict and demanded full control not just at liverpool but inter and valencia That is absolute bull..and you know it my friend. He guided Valencia to the league title and the CL semi how many times? He Left inter due to a dispute iwth MAssimo Moratti over broken promises and that is really that simple. Despite those broken promises he lifted the European super cup and world club championship trophy with Inter. but its not bull and you know its not , liverpool sacked parry to give him full control over signings and everything and it went worse and then took italian and european champions to a relegation position after fighting with the board and director of football branca .
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craney you realize that we wont be playing in champs league for the great magician to do "wonders" once again...
. thats an excellent point. fck all use to us in the league if he cant do the business in the league.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria He came from Barca, to bring us Joy He's five foot seven, he's football heaven please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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Yes, and it's that what we need to get back into first.
Considering the squad, we always were lacking just one or two more players. Or better quality of player over all, to take us from 4th, 3rd and 2nd, to 1st.
We got mighty close in 09, the closest ever. It was at this time the gong should have gone in the previous owners head and gave Rafa a bit more money. But no, it was the same old same old, we needed to improve a bit and we couldn't. Rafa was working under terrible owners who never gave him 1st, but always 2nd and 3rd.
The only time they splashed the cash was for Torres and even that had a lot to do with Luis Garcia going the other way. Rafa tried his best to tell us what these owners were doing, he still to this day remains Torres was never £27million like the media portray.
He simply couldn't win and the media always sided with Fergie and his bullies.
I still would have had Kenny for another season, but thats over now, we need to bring somebody in now and out of all the candidates being thrown about, Rafa has to be a serious option, whether you like it or not.
Pep Guardiola is the man we should get, but if he doesn't want it or wants to have so much time of, what can you do?
We still need a manager regardless.
The squad as it stands to day is nowhere near good enough to get us back into that top 4 next season. We are 4 places of this year, that says it all! Some of these players are clearly not good enough or able enough to get us up there, and any new manager will have to change that. But the squad still needs another influx of £100million to get us up there.
....and I believe Rafa would be the best out of the lot to spend that money. HOWEVER, the rumored £30mill will do nothing.
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hes been lucky in europe .most would say hes the best there.everyone got an opinion.
but i dont see how would he improve our league performances.CL is a far cry
Steven Gerrard: Heartbeat of LFC.
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He simply couldn't win and the media always sided with Fergie and his bullies.
ill just respond to that bit craney, he didnt win it cause he didnt win it. he lost the head and couldnt seal the deal. he was out psyched by fergie. nothing t do with the media or bullies.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria He came from Barca, to bring us Joy He's five foot seven, he's football heaven please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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"lucky......."
pfffffffffffffff
I ain't washing Rafa's back, like some people blindly do, but out of all the managers thrown about, he is at the top, how can anybody deny that.
PUT ASIDE the fact he managed us before and just look at the list.
"lucky........"
The man has done incredible in Europe with all the teams he has been at, yes we might have had some comebacks, but what does that matter if we are the winner at the end of the game?
Cast your mind back to Real Madrid at Anfield or Barca away and try telling me that man was "lucky"
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not lucky all the time, that certainly would be an unfair assessment, but we certainly had the rub of the grass that year craney.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria He came from Barca, to bring us Joy He's five foot seven, he's football heaven please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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the snobbery that is coming from liverpool fans is just embarrassing IE it must be a real top manager etc etc , martinez wont get backing from the fans AVB no thanks , if not dalglish then it must be benitez , lets get it rght people which ever manager takes over benitez , martinez, AVB whoever should be backed , but one thing is clear this job is long long term and the cirrent squad is far from good enough even to finish in a EL position never mind champions league , so will have to go and better players brought in , but lets get it right liverpool's last 3 seasons 7th, 6th and 8th with the worst record since 1954 , so i think all us reds need to have some realism and be more humble and if FSG sre the right owner for liverpool they will get it right and i believe instead of getting all high and mighty of this issue just lets see how it pans out , P.S. i have heard of a cringeworthy and totally embarrassing demo to get benitez the job or to reinstate dalglish just shocking and totally embarrassing .
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