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I know I agree with you mate it was our lack of goals and defensive errors that went against us, our football which we played was good football. All I'm saying is whoever gets the job is the man we must show faith in after all we can't really have a worse season league wise next season. The list mentioned brendan rogers,Martinez, AVB (I hope not) and guerdiola (unlikely but would be super!). Is everyone against Martinez and rogers then? I don't think anyone is "against" Martinez and Rogers so much, as they have proven they can stay in the league. It's more a question of whether a step to Liverpool is a step too far for them, whether they can make the adjustments necessary in the short grace period they will be given by the fans. Every year we sit outside the CL positions places more pressure on the new manager, because if what Dalglish achieved wasn't enough to keep his job and build continuity then we will be sacking a manager every year until we either reach the CL or run out of money. Maybe Martinez and Rodgers could do well at Liverpool were they given sufficient time, but time is the one thing they will not have nearly enough of, so surely it makes more sense to go with an established manager with a proven track record at the sharp end of the table? Seriously, if this appointment is more about the manager's youth and his ability to win, then I can't see why they're even considering looking beyond AVB. Like Martinez he did a good job with a bad side, the only problem was that Abramovich isn't rational. Di Matteo (the hero of the hour) had a WORSE league record with the same squad, so even new manager impetus couldn't get them to top 4. For me, Di Matteo won only one game this season that his predecessor probably would not have - the second leg of the CL quarter final. He's not done anything else that AVB could not have done. They put 10 men around Messi in order to get to the CL final; perhaps AVB would have tried to play football instead.
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I know I agree with you mate it was our lack of goals and defensive errors that went against us, our football which we played was good football. All I'm saying is whoever gets the job is the man we must show faith in after all we can't really have a worse season league wise next season. The list mentioned brendan rogers,Martinez, AVB (I hope not) and guerdiola (unlikely but would be super!). Is everyone against Martinez and rogers then? I don't think anyone is "against" Martinez and Rogers so much, as they have proven they can stay in the league. It's more a question of whether a step to Liverpool is a step too far for them, whether they can make the adjustments necessary in the short grace period they will be given by the fans. Every year we sit outside the CL positions places more pressure on the new manager, because if what Dalglish achieved wasn't enough to keep his job and build continuity then we will be sacking a manager every year until we either reach the CL or run out of money. Maybe Martinez and Rodgers could do well at Liverpool were they given sufficient time, but time is the one thing they will not have nearly enough of, so surely it makes more sense to go with an established manager with a proven track record at the sharp end of the table? Seriously, if this appointment is more about the manager's youth and his ability to win, then I can't see why they're even considering looking beyond AVB. Like Martinez he did a good job with a bad side, the only problem was that Abramovich isn't rational. Di Matteo (the hero of the hour) had a WORSE league record with the same squad, so even new manager impetus couldn't get them to top 4. For me, Di Matteo won only one game this season that his predecessor probably would not have - the second leg of the CL quarter final. He's not done anything else that AVB could not have done. They put 10 men around Messi in order to get to the CL final; perhaps AVB would have tried to play football instead. Nah mate, I'm more or less against Martinez. Three straight relegation battles is not the kind of CV that should get you in the reckoning for one of the top jobs in the league. And the "good football" Wigan play is, quite frankly, a bit over-blown in the same way that it is for Bolton under Owen Coyle.
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You wouldnt see him up for the chelsea job or any of the top four so why is he looking good for liverpool.
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a top job? thats a joke right? we have been out of the top 4 for a while now its time to get realistic they have experience fighting relegation they know how to handle the pressures. Fact is we never make the right choice when it comes to management. Who in there right mind this is top managers will want the job?
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So it would seem that a well publicized last few games of the season to avoid relegation is enough to be considered a top manager. I'm not knocking Martinez, but how fickle do you have to be to forget that Wigan lost 8 on the bounce and was close to getting the chop himself...from Wigan. They pushed to avoid the drop, narrowly, doesn't mean he should be coming to manage LFC. He conducts himself well and I was glad to see them still in the prem, but I don't want him here. Hell, if you want to look at Martinez, why not Mark Hughes whilst you're at it?! Even with all of the problems he brings with him, Rafa is still in a different league to Martinez, and I don't even want Rafa back. It's time to move forward, make some small calculated risks, I see AVB as a positive calculated risk, I see Martinez as a leap of faith over a chasm.
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AVB will probably be the best bet for us tbh!! maybe neil lennon will be considered next haha
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well id take Rafa benitez anyday over martinez hes a top manager. and handling pressure is one thing but delivering results is another. And who wouldnt want this job.. Its liverpool anybody would know how much of a massive team we are.
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Wouldn't be a bad thing rafa! But anyone who takes over needs money desperately we really need a goalscorer!!
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