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I've been trying to do as much research as possible, finding out if there is a serious financial crisis looming at Liverpool, will a new stadium be built in time for 2015 and if the Financial Fair Play rules will affect us immensely.

Anyone have any views on these serious topics?

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I would think the recession is hitting all clubs and the sky high ticket prices they want to charge. And Liverpool simply have to be in the champions league as soon as possible. Unless we break out of our current status then the drawbridge will be up by 2015 and Liverpool will be shut out under the FFP. Currently we are well below our rivals in terms of turnover


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Originally Posted By: Daniel Narciso
I've been trying to do as much research as possible, finding out if there is a serious financial crisis looming at Liverpool, will a new stadium be built in time for 2015 and if the Financial Fair Play rules will affect us immensely.

Anyone have any views on these serious topics?
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Welcome mate.I'm not sure but i think a new stadium doesn't affect ffp rules

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Originally Posted By: jboy
Welcome mate.I'm not sure but i think a new stadium doesn't affect ffp rules


Well, technically it does because spending on the squad must be relative to one's profit, give or take 40m pounds. So if we're financing a stadium then our profit will be lower and therefore so will our ability to invest in the squad, unless someone buys said stadium for us in exchange for the naming rights.

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UEFA president Michel Platini has told clubs to be careful about what they spend under new rules and is concerned about what could happen to Manchester City if their owners leave the club.

Financial Fair Play rules are being introduced to make sure European football is played on a more level playing field and by 2013/14 clubs will be required to break even on their balance sheets.

For the first couple of years a €45m (£36m) deficit will be considered an 'acceptable deviation' but clubs will then start getting punished for spending more than they earn.

Manchester City have invested heavily in their squad since Sheikh Mansour's Abu Dhabi United Group took over and this season they became Premier League champions.

Platini insists that money does not guarantee success, however, and has fired a warning about the future.

"We have to protect the clubs, because until they pay Manchester City will be happy but if they (the owners) leave Manchester City what is going to happen with this club?" Platini said in an interview with Fox Soccer America and broadcast on Sky Sports News.


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Originally Posted By: thundyr
Originally Posted By: jboy
Welcome mate.I'm not sure but i think a new stadium doesn't affect ffp rules


Well, technically it does because spending on the squad must be relative to one's profit, give or take 40m pounds. So if we're financing a stadium then our profit will be lower and therefore so will our ability to invest in the squad, unless someone buys said stadium for us in exchange for the naming rights.


Is capital expenditure not removed from FFP? Say if Liverpool spend 100m on a stadium and have a loss for the year of 110m, according to FFP rules is it only 10m loss?

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Welcome mate.I'm not sure but i think a new stadium doesn't affect ffp rules


Well, technically it does because spending on the squad must be relative to one's profit, give or take 40m pounds. So if we're financing a stadium then our profit will be lower and therefore so will our ability to invest in the squad, unless someone buys said stadium for us in exchange for the naming rights.


Is capital expenditure not removed from FFP? Say if Liverpool spend 100m on a stadium and have a loss for the year of 110m, according to FFP rules is it only 10m loss?


Good spot that, Maxi88. Here is the full wording:
"Expenditure such as youth development, stadium infrastructure and community development does not count towards FFP. Depreciation on tangible fixed assets is also excluded."

So it looks like the stadium is completely separate from FFP.

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Sounds like it is on your core trading P&L.

So a new stadium would help us under FFP rules by generating more fan revenue, corporate and sponsorship.


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Sounds like it is on your core trading P&L.

So a new stadium would help us under FFP rules by generating more fan revenue, corporate and sponsorship.


Yes, it does seem that way. The only problem is a) how to wake the Liverpool council up and actually move ahead with the plans, and b) how to afford it/get someone to pay for it.

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