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What gets me is that people equate 'got a good team together for not much money' as a 'potential to do well with a big club'. It doesn't work like that. Some managers are actually better with less money, less expectation, less quality. (Hodgson anyone). You need a totally different skill set to manage top players, find top players, it's just a completely different game. Lets leave these good on a budget managers where they are, and where they should be for now.
Paul lambert is good on a budget does not equal he can manage big players! Nor does it mean he can find quality enough to get into the champions league!
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What gets me is that people equate 'got a good team together for not much money' as a 'potential to do well with a big club'. It doesn't work like that. Some managers are actually better with less money, less expectation, less quality. (Hodgson anyone). You need a totally different skill set to manage top players, find top players, it's just a completely different game. Lets leave these good on a budget managers where they are, and where they should be for now.
Paul lambert is good on a budget does not equal he can manage big players! Nor does it mean he can find quality enough to get into the champions league! agreed!
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I've followed him on Twitter for a long time now and he's one of my favourite football-related follows on there. Very level-headed and knows his stuff. Had no idea he'd be qualified for this role of be in the running, so it's caught me completely by surprise, but I welcome it. Welcome, Jen!
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What gets me is that people equate 'got a good team together for not much money' as a 'potential to do well with a big club'. It doesn't work like that. Some managers are actually better with less money, less expectation, less quality. (Hodgson anyone). You need a totally different skill set to manage top players, find top players, it's just a completely different game. Lets leave these good on a budget managers where they are, and where they should be for now.
Paul lambert is good on a budget does not equal he can manage big players! Nor does it mean he can find quality enough to get into the champions league! Very good point. A lot of people take the mentality that "If he did well with Club X on a shoestring, then he'll do well at Club Y with loads of money." But that only works on Football Manager. Managing Stephen Kelly is completely different from managing Steven Gerrard. Some managers have it, some don't. For every Mourinho that can make the step up the ladder from Uniao de Leiria to Porto to Madrid, there is a Hodgson or a Paul Ince. Decent managers at their respective lower levels, but not ready or able to make the step up. I'm not saying Martinez isn't ready to make that step. He might very well be. But now is not the time to experiment. If we choose the wrong manager, we will set ourselves back 5 years minimum. We need a low-risk appointment, basically a sure thing.
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What gets me is that people equate 'got a good team together for not much money' as a 'potential to do well with a big club'. It doesn't work like that. Some managers are actually better with less money, less expectation, less quality. (Hodgson anyone). You need a totally different skill set to manage top players, find top players, it's just a completely different game. Lets leave these good on a budget managers where they are, and where they should be for now.
Paul lambert is good on a budget does not equal he can manage big players! Nor does it mean he can find quality enough to get into the champions league! Very good point. A lot of people take the mentality that "If he did well with Club X on a shoestring, then he'll do well at Club Y with loads of money." But that only works on Football Manager. Managing Stephen Kelly is completely different from managing Steven Gerrard. Some managers have it, some don't. For every Mourinho that can make the step up the ladder from Uniao de Leiria to Porto to Madrid, there is a Hodgson or a Paul Ince. Decent managers at their respective lower levels, but not ready or able to make the step up. I'm not saying Martinez isn't ready to make that step. He might very well be. But now is not the time to experiment. If we choose the wrong manager, we will set ourselves back 5 years minimum. We need a low-risk appointment, basically a sure thing. Yeah, you never know but I'd be suprised if Martinez was given it. If they want youth, you'd would think they'd go for AVB. Him or Rafa I feel would attract top european talent easier. Hope it's Rafa.
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If you look at the poll on the first page of this thread, something really stands out. So far 125 people have voted and Rafa Benitez has amassed 63 votes so far, with his 2 closest rivals, AVB and Jurgen Klopp with only 16 votes each. It really does say something about how many fans the man has...(it's more than 63 I assure you :D)
Rafa Rafael, Rafa Rafael, Rafa Rafael, Rafael Benitez !!!
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I feel compelled to answer your post regarding Paul Lambert as you reckon he would not be able to handle so say top players.Well like i said in my post this man has won the champions league as a player,so that in itself commands respect & at the moment how many of our players can say that only Stevie who's not had a good season & who,s career is coming to an end,as for Carra he cannot now command even a starting place.Lambert has also won titles in Germany & Scotland so i think he is more than capable of handling so say top players.
This point you make about us getting into the champs lge i think you need to wake up & smell the coffee fella, we are a million miles away, we've just finished 8th there are 4 places up for grabs,2 Manc clubs,Chelski because they will spend a shed load of money,which will leave hopefully us,Arsenal,spuds maybe the barcodes!fighting for one place.
So how much more money are we going to waste,rumour has it that the new manager will get 30mil for new players,so it has to be spent wisely.Lambert would be a far better bet than both Bobby Martin & Rodgers
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I don't think the fans should be clamoring for their choice this time. Fan pressure is what led to the Dalglish permanent appointment in the first place. We got it wrong, boys. Who knows how things would have gone with AVB or another more modern manager?
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