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Woolsey #228841 17/05/12 01:28 PM
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owners are doing what most fans expect, making decisions that need to be made. Keep up the good work!

Woolsey #228845 17/05/12 01:31 PM
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I don't think we need a hate campaign as they did pull us back from the edge and it will take time to build the club up, however i'm just thinking about kenny and i will be upset along with other fans if kenny is pushed out completely and wiped from recent history, he may have failed expectations here but he is still a legend and should be fronted as one if he wishes to represent us in some small way. I dont agree with fans who say he has to stay away because he will overshadow the new man, the newbie if he has any backbone and belief in himself will not be intimidated by Kenny. Do you think Mourinho would be bothered going to Manu and worry about Fergie sitting in the stands? No way would they ditch Fergie just because his status may overwhelm future managers.


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a hate campaign would be pointless and lead us to the nothing

we need to join together not split apart right now

Donut #228861 17/05/12 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ged
FSG are proving good owners if you ask me.. I'm completely miffed that people are having a dig. They made money available for transfers (I know a lot of that was the Torres money - but they made it available all the same instead of pocketing it) They've acted when Roy and Kenny were under performing (forget the sentiments with Kenny - wasn't up to scratch) They've quietly gone about their business clearing out Commoli and others... just because they're not in the papers every day proclaiming this and that about a new stadium / Anfield development doesn't mean they're not on it...

I'll take all this back if they appoint Martinez mind...


whilst the original thread was a little emotional the points are not too far away. They started the game picked the players but didn't like it so are now taking their ball home to start another game elsewhere. They had a philosophy which we bought into but did not have the balls to follow it through and here we are again in turmoil. There can be as many questions asked of FSG's performances as there has been of Kenny's, they so far have delivered nothing. Moores offered 20mil net spend a year and they have probably only just matched it.

Any new manager needs a massive influx of cash and time. Not sell before you buy and we will top up a little as has been the case so far. For me dechamps,80mil net spend now and then each year for 3 seasons a further 40mil a season. At 200mil over 4 seasons is half what Man City have spent and 2/3rds of what Chelsea spent when Abbramovich came in. With the club valued at 600mil and they have spent 300mil so far there is plenty left in the pot to propell this club forward. The club needs a real kick start not this year on year swapping and changing.

EMP #228863 17/05/12 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: kennymuststay
yes i know i am starting a hate campaign , but i am hating fsg right now so i don't care. here's why

they don't know what their doing

no stadium plans at all

they haven't actually invested all that much

kenny would have sorted the problems in the summer with a bit of support

they are insisting on a DOF when it just doesn't work in Eng,commolli should be an example

they have sacked nearly everyone they have appointed , so what was wrong with your judgement 1st time round FSG? ur judgement just get a whole lot better did it.

their DOF policy is just a policy to make money,commolli's brief was to buy younf and sell high.(not a footballing reason)

this policy drove out meirlies ,who had a great 1dt season here and would have easily kept kenny in his job.

they are probably going to appoint AVB as the next manager. a joke .

they have no patience. kenny deserved and needed at least another season. he had us brilliant for 1st 6 months,then fsg got rid of raul, kenny won a cup,we are back in europe and some of our performances against the top teams this year was exceptional, carroll was finally getting his big arse in gear. knee jerk fsg don't know what they are doing

yanks go home;


They have invested hundreds of millions to wipe debt. 40 million into the squad (more than Utd Arsenal Spurs etc). So in fact they have invested an incredible amount of money in just 2 years.

You have absolutely no clue what their stadium plans are. You are assuming on complete ignorance (not trying to be insulting, just you like the rest of us are completely ignorant of FSG plans re a stadium).

Kenny might have sorted problems. Kenny might have made things worse with more dross signings. Who knows.

DoF, I grant you in England that hasn't worked yet, but the best teams in the world currently have one so...maybe it hasn't been applied well due to managers thinking they are too entitled in this country.

Meireles had a decent first season (made much better by one purple patch) and can't regularly get into the Chelsea team now so...why you think he would keep someone in a job is beyond me. And he went to Chelsea (a club who were more successful more recently) to work with a Portugese manager he previously worked with! He wanted to go!

Kenny didn't 'deserve' to stay. No one is entitled to that, especially not after such a poor poor season.

You're entitled to your opinion about them. But there are certainly no facts here regarding FSG being bad owners. In fact they have been fantastic and not scared to make the big decisions. The one thing I do agree on is that they have got rid of Kenny and Commolli very quickly which shows they at the time didn't have the understanding of who to appoint. But They wern't scared to admit they made a mistake. Which is great.

EMP #228892 17/05/12 02:09 PM
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despite the unnecessary abuse you got here KMS, you may, in time, be proved right, even though its a little premature. i would bookmark your OP just in case, roll it out in a season or two.

lads just because someone's opinion is different to yours, there is no need to attack it like it was by some in this thread.


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Flames #228959 17/05/12 02:53 PM
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its american business men maddness.

when u actually think about it he won our first silverware in 6 yrs,back in europe,got to fa cup final which we would have won if we didn't start slow make errors and if the game was 10 minutes longer. he came 8th ,not 15th. 8th and that was with some very unlucky results thrown in, if we had beat arsenal like u deserved we wouldn't have wound down . plus we lost lucas for over half the season , at a time when lucas and adam were clicking and we were beating chelsea away . suarez thing didn't help either. its so knee-jerk this decision.

EMP #228963 17/05/12 02:54 PM
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time will tell.


Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.

"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
Woolsey #228987 17/05/12 03:10 PM
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in my opinion pointless thread

but each man to his own


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Woolsey #229021 17/05/12 03:45 PM
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I think FSG did everything for the fans in the beginning. Appointed Kenny (for sentimental reasons), bought players that Kenny wanted and backed off, and it all backfired. It's their perogative to change things, it is their club after all and they have to do what's best for the club and the future. The only thing they haven't delivered on (yet) is the stadium.

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